#1 Let me say this is one of the most informative, helpful and friendly forums I’ve had the pleasure of using. Though not a Ubuntu user or forum member it and Red Hat are in that league as well. Many thanks to the members.
Problem:
No matter how hard I try sometimes I just run out of time correcting typos or updating links in my posts.
Suggestion:
System administrators increase the edit post time from 10 minutes to 15 minutes.
Let me say this is one of the most informative, helpful and friendly forums I’ve had the pleasure of using. Though not a Ubuntu user or forum member it and Red Hat are in that league as well. Many thanks to the members.
Thank you for that @tararpharazon.
System administrators increase the edit post time from 10 minutes to 15 minutes.
I agree with you. I want much time editing and processing my post when I “upload”.
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 16:06:02 +0000, tararpharazon wrote:
> #1 Let me say this is one of the most informative, helpful and friendly
> forums I’ve had the pleasure of using. Though not a Ubuntu user or
> forum member it and Red Hat are in that league as well. Many thanks to
> the members.
>
> Problem:
> No matter how hard I try sometimes I just run out of time correcting
> typos or updating links in my posts.
>
> Suggestion:
> System administrators increase the edit post time from 10 minutes to 15
> minutes.
Thanks for the suggestion - we’ve been over this a few times, and
changing the edit window really prompts the question “so why increase it
to 15 minutes, why not 20?” - and so on.
There’s nothing wrong with having a post with typos in it that is
corrected with a follow-on reply that corrects things or adds information.
One suggestion that I’m sure someone will make is that before submitting
a post, use the preview functionality to check it over for typos or
missing information. Some systems (Slashdot comes to mind) actually
force you through a preview before even allowing the poster to submit the
post. I’ve occasionally wondered if vBulletin could have that
functionality, in fact, because that would (a) make posters check their
work before posting, and (b) make it another step for spammers to go
through, making it more difficult for automated spamming solutions to do
their work.
With regards to typos, you might look as well to see if there’s a plugin
for your browser that provides spell checking capabilities. Posting from
the NNTP side of the world, I use a reader (pan) that has a built-in
spell checker and I find it very helpful.
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C
@hendersj Thank you for the reply.
On another forum I can go back at least a week if not more and edit a prior post. It’s less spelling typos and more adding comments, links, to simplify explanations to the last post before 10 minutes are up.
Post Quick Reply doesn’t have preview, even in Advanced with preview its only 10 minutes to get a correct or updates, even when you are the last response and this is your latest post.
I thought 15 minutes was compromise and yes why not 30 minutes, 10 minutes isn’t enough time to think, especially when composing complex replies involving several concepts and links.
Good members and sysadmins like yourself know your SDB:s, Portal and your way around openSUSE sites but some of the rest of us don’t.
I’ll think the problem is the synchronization with NNTP. NNTP user will
still see the original post when you edit it in the forum.
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 18:06:01 +0000, tararpharazon wrote:
> @hendersj Thank you for the reply.
> On another forum I can go back at least a week if not more and edit a
> prior post. It’s less spelling typos and more adding comments, links,
> to simplify explanations to the last post before 10 minutes are up. Post
> Quick Reply doesn’t have preview, even in Advanced with preview its only
> 10 minutes to get a correct or updates, even when you are the last
> response and this is your latest post.
>
> I thought 15 minutes was compromise and yes why not 30 minutes, 10
> minutes isn’t enough time to think, especially when composing complex
> replies involving several concepts and links. Good members and sysadmins
> like yourself know your SDB:s, Portal and your way around openSUSE sites
> but some of the rest of us don’t.
Fruchtratte hit the nail on the head - because we sync between the web
interface and the news interface (NNTP), edits don’t come through. We
currently have the sync time set at 30 minutes IIRC, but the initial
configuration was 10 minutes, hence the 10-minute window. We talked
about increasing it with the sync time temporarily increased, but felt
that it would take more time to explain why we increased it and then
reduced it again - so rather than tweak it, we’ve just left it as is.
It is perhaps a different way of thinking about posting for those who
come from a background of using web-based forums where editing is not
only possible but actually encouraged. I understand that does require a
shift in thinking - to me it’s not so foreign because I “grew up” on the
'net participating in forums of many kinds, and this whole idea of
editing posts for any period of time after one hits ‘send’ is pretty
foreign to me, I’ll confess.
Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C
Usenet was in the eye of the newsreader no? I can’t argue pressing enter sent that usnet, but web-based forums are HTML, really colorful, smilies, dancing gifs, embedded videos, etc.
Understood NNTP sync, 15 would’ve fit. Thanks for the explanation and consideration.
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 22:36:01 +0000, tararpharazon wrote:
> Usenet was in the eye of the newsreader no? I can’t argue pressing
> enter sent that usnet, but web-based forums are HTML, really colorful,
> smilies, dancing gifs, embedded videos, etc.
>
> Understood NNTP sync, 15 would’ve fit. Thanks for the explanation and
> consideration.
No problem, thanks for taking the time to provide feedback. 
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C
On 2011-03-19, tararpharazon <tararpharazon@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
> On another forum I can go back at least a week if not more and edit a
> prior post.
Reducing the time is not just about the NNTP link.
Even in a (web-only) forum you still have one problem, when you edit after a
long delay: people might have answered your original message; you change
that message; their argument no longer make sense…
That kind of situation is a good base for a flamewar, or at least a very
heated, very confusing and completely pointless debate.
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When in doubt, use brute force.
– Ken Thompson
@Rikishi42
Yes, a week back to correct spelling and grammar.
There’s always that risk of out of context for a reply. Some quoted replies include the original bad link.
Also to go back to fix bad links after a few replies that the link provided didn’t work.
For instance I make this post, go to sleep and review the replies tomorrow to find I made a bad link.
NNTP limiting the time to repair a post makes sense.
@Rikishi42
Yes, a week back to correct spelling and grammar.
There’s always that risk of out of context for a reply. Some quoted replies include the original bad link.
Also to go back to fix bad links after a few replies that the link provided didn’t work.
For instance I make this post, go to sleep and review the replies tomorrow to find I made a bad link.
NNTP limiting the time to repair a post makes sense.
tararpharazon, I sympathize with position as a web only user. You get used to it even though the restriction to Web users seems more severe, in terms of time restrictions, than in any other forum I have used. I just keep doing previews, trying to get it right and hope for the best. It seems to be our lot in life as a Web user here in the openSUSE forums.
Thank You,
@jdmcdanie13
Why you think I am web only based is a mystery but I say thanks.
I’m fairly new to web forums, especially for tech forums which combined with binary usenet groups, keeps NNTP going.
First web based forum was about 2005 (not Google groups).
Before that it was Usenet NNTP providers/servers, before that Usenet and before that Bulletin Boards.
So, again thanks.
@jdmcdanie13Why you think I am web only based is a mystery but I say thanks.
I’m fairly new to web forums, especially for tech forums which combined with binary usenet groups, keeps NNTP going.
First web based forum was about 2005 (not Google groups).
Before that it was Usenet NNTP providers/servers, before that Usenet and before that Bulletin Boards.
So, again thanks.
tararpharazon, I presume nothing, but I dislike the time limit and the reason it is present. None the less, I press on as its only a minor detail in the over scope of things. Each to his own and good luck.
Thank You,
