I'm losing my mind here. Firefox is good Kmail ain't.

I’ve spent 29 hours trying to figure this out. And I’m about to blow my brains out.

Fresh install 11.2. - 64bit but tried 32 bit and same thing.
Dell studio 1734.
Broadcom wireless and wired.

Installed broadcom drivers (b43) through yast.

Wired eth0 works.
Wireless eth1 works.

Surf with Firefox fine. BUT. Kmail will not connect through wireless. Nor can I access repositories through wireless.

Tried blacklisting B43 in ssb no change.

What in the hell is going on??

I’ve searched forum after forum and tried everything and CANNOT make this happen. Please tell me what to do. I have to get this working or my boss is going to shoot me.

On 04/22/2010 01:36 PM, rs422 wrote:
>
> I’ve spent 29 hours trying to figure this out. And I’m about to blow my
> brains out.
>
> Fresh install 11.2. - 64bit but tried 32 bit and same thing.
> Dell studio 1734.
> Broadcom wireless and wired.
>
> Installed broadcom drivers (b43) through yast.
>
>
> Wired eth0 works.
> Wireless eth1 works.
>
> Surf with Firefox fine. BUT. Kmail will not connect through wireless.
> Nor can I access repositories through wireless.
>
> Tried blacklisting B43 in ssb no change.
>
> What in the hell is going on??
>
> I’ve searched forum after forum and tried everything and CANNOT make
> this happen. Please tell me what to do. I have to get this working or my
> boss is going to shoot me.

If wired and wireless both work with Firefox, why are you blaming b43
for problems with Kmail? To me, it is obvious that the problem is with
the Kmail configuration or the program itself.

How does Kmail fail?

Dude never mind. I am just going back to Ubuntu. I’m sick of f**king with this. I like Opensuse but ever since 10.1 I’ve had the same **** issue with wireless. You’d think they would figure it out eventually. I can’t stand Ubunutu but at least it works. And if Opensuse ever wants to compete they gotta do the basics of making networking work out of the box. Period. I now Broadcom sucks, but there is a broadcom unit in allot of laptops out there. Maybe I’m just cursed but this is the 5th Dell in 4 years I’ve tried with Opensuse and none of them have worked straight up.

But whatever they are doing at Canonical, they are doing right. Activate Broadcom STA driver and away you go. What the hell is the big mystery about that?

Even more fun, why is he blaming b43 if he is obviously not using it.

(Hint: eth1 and b43? Smells like a proprietary blob to me.)

P.S. I remeber some strange issues with ssl connections and vlanmodes with this “prop blob”, don’t know if the patch being issued by some community members is still needed and applied in packman packages.

I’m not blaming anything on b43. But why is it I can connect fIREFOX and surf all day and Kmail won’t connect? Tell me that.

Again I just dl’d Ubuntu to the box activated B’com STA driver and in 2 minutes I’m up and running.

What is so friggin difficult about that?

off hand i’d say that only port 80 is open on the wireless…

how is the wireless access set up? what type of wireless access is this? wi-fi? 3g? idle prying minds wanna know! :slight_smile:

I like Opensuse because I love KDE without being backported all to hell and back. But I have to config these boxes for a supervisor. And I can’t sit and sift through outdated postings and this and that and machine outputs for 30 hours and come up dry.

Either Novell can make the d*amn thing work or they can’t.

It’s real simple.

“off hand i’d say that only port 80 is open on the wireless…”

Oh give me a some credit will you? You think I just fell off the turnip wagon?

On 04/22/2010 03:46 PM, rs422 wrote:
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> “off hand i’d say that only port 80 is open on the wireless…”
>
>
> Oh give me a some credit will you? You think I just fell off the turnip
> wagon?

As a matter of fact YES!!!

Ok hotshot. You figure it out.

On 04/22/2010 04:26 PM, rs422 wrote:
>
> Ok hotshot. You figure it out.

What URL is Kmail trying to reach? Does ‘ping <That URL>’ work?

Does it work if you disengage the firewall?

What is the exact error message that Kmail issues?

Look I apologize for sounding like a dick. I am just so frustrated and I let it show and I try not to do that. Kmail simply cannot connect. Says unknown host and that’s it. I can’t give you any more information because that’s all I got. I just can’t figure out why I can resolve the DNS for anything in Firefox but can’t download an email.

Again I’m sorry for being short.

On 04/22/2010 05:16 PM, rs422 wrote:
>
> Look I apologize for sounding like a dick. I am just so frustrated and I
> let it show and I try not to do that. Kmail simply cannot connect. Says
> unknown host and that’s it. I can’t give you any more information
> because that’s all I got. I just can’t figure out why I can resolve the
> DNS for anything in Firefox but can’t download an email.

I don’t use Kmail so I may not be much help, but what incoming server is
configured? What kind of connection?

The configuration looks to be normal for a mail client. I do not believe
that you have a DNS problem, but some other kind of configuration issue.

My S O L U T I O N …

When ever that happens to me, I place the laptop, box or whatever on a big-ol-stump we have way in the back yard.
I grab my grand-pa’s big AXE and …

But seriously, I have four (4) late model i64 laptops running OpenSuSE 11.2(my favorite, dependable, work horse), Debian (learning OS) and Kubuntu. They all work great, although lately I’ve had problems with Kubuntu and my WiFi so… Its OpenSuSE to the rescue.

Sometimes, when I have a similar issue, I think about the stump and the big AXE, but that won’t solve anything. (and I can’t afford it)
Take a walk, have a cup of whatever, Google it, scan the forums and look at it from another angle.

You’re smart, you’ll figure it out. The answer will jump out at you when you least expect it. Then you’ll laugh at it!
Insulting the forum guys will NOT accomplish anything.
Like that great Cuban wise man (Tony Montana) used to say, “taka eeesi mahn” “wasimarah?”.

Best wishes…

Rr

Not a flame but I’m temped! You want this thing solved right? Then can you please provide details. What is your set-up, What steps precisely that you have taken? What exactly are the error messages in kmail? What are your firewall inclusions / exclusions? How does your wireless and wired set-up differ?

All these and maybe more will give clues because I’m sorry but I’ve misplaced my magic mirror.

rs422 wrote:
> Look I apologize for sounding like a dick.

not accepted (by me)…
show some respect, maturity and turnip-wagon patience…
or fix it yourself…
or enjoy the brown.
bye!


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I can’t figure it out. There isn’t a configuration for networking in Kmail that I could readily find. I am going to try 11.3 M5 and see if the new kernel might work better. Just a mystery.

On 23/04/10 14:46, rs422 wrote:
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> I can’t figure it out. There isn’t a configuration for networking in
> Kmail that I could readily find. I am going to try 11.3 M5 and see if
> the new kernel might work better. Just a mystery.
>
>

I very much doubt that would help. I’ve had similar experiences after
starting kmail for the first time and it’s always been something wrong
with the way I’ve set up connection details in kmail, such as incorrect
passwords/usernames or supplying them when it wasn’t necessary.

Might be an idea to try another mail program such as Thunderbird where
the account set-up wizard might work for you.


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Yeah I thought about that. Maybe I’ll give that a try first. I’m so scattered with all the things I tried yesterday I forgot about Thunderbird.

On 04/23/2010 09:46 AM, rs422 wrote:
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> Yeah I thought about that. Maybe I’ll give that a try first. I’m so
> scattered with all the things I tried yesterday I forgot about
> Thunderbird.

The setup in Thunderbird and Kmail are very similar. I did the POP and
SMTP server setup for a simple configuration in Kmail in 2 minutes
yesterday. Look under Settings=>Kmail.