The 1-click install failed forCheese
My schoolwork require the google branded chrome browser, hard to install
YaST looks nice, but I would rather use KDE’s built in tools
My sound card will play KDE’s tesr sound, not the one in YaST or from any other app
Well perhaps you should address the problems one at a time in separate threads.
You can of course use the KDE tools they just simply do not do as much as Yast. Then again you can do everything from the command line also and manually edit the configuration files.
It is truly odd that KDE plays test sound and Yast does not. It is usually the other way if there is a problem.
As to other apps did you install the required codecs or try with non proprietary sound file formats?
I know what cheese is but not what forcheese is???
In any case you need separate threads for each question
On Mon, 05 May 2014 23:46:02 +0000, tux peng wrote:
> The 1-click install failed forCheese My schoolwork require the google
> branded chrome browser, hard to install YaST looks nice, but I would
> rather use KDE’s built in tools My sound card will play KDE’s tesr
> sound, not the one in YaST or from any other app
As gogalthorp suggested, rather than post in a support forum a gripe like
this, ask specific and clear questions about things you’re having
difficulty with so people can help you. If you want a venue to just rant
and rave, I would suggest a personal blog.
The volunteers here are focused on helping people with problems. In
order to do so, when asking questions, it helps to be as specific as you
can and to describe your problems with as much detail as you can.
Saying “I’m beginning to hate openSUSE” doesn’t fit into that category.
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C
Really?
Me, I have always hated liver!
Don’t use Oneclick’s
Use Yast > Software Management
Follow the guide here
https://forums.opensuse.org/entry.php/149-openSUSE-13-1-Multi-media-and-Restricted-Format-Installation-Guide
Install Chromium and pepper-flash
or Manually you can download Chrome from google. Then just click the downloded .rpm and it will install
In kde you might need to check the preferred device settings for the sound device for various functions
On 2014-05-06 01:46, tux peng wrote:
If this is a rant about “I’m begining to hate OpenSUSE”, you posted on
the wrong place. Here it is people asking for help. For rants, try the
soapbox forum.
> The 1-click install failed forCheese
What is “forCheese”?
I you mean “cheese”, you just need to use YaST package manager, as it is
part of the official distribution.
> My schoolwork require the google branded chrome browser, hard to install
Why? What did you do? I don’t find it hard at all.
> YaST looks nice, but I would rather use KDE’s built in tools
So, if KDE doesn’t have the module you need, what would you do? They
fill different needs. You can ask the KDE people to do more modules and
things, but you can not ask openSUSE to put fewer things in YaST. YaST
is our thing, KDE is not.
> My sound card will play KDE’s tesr sound, not the one in YaST or from
> any other app
Now this is not clear. What do you mean exactly?
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” at Telcontar)
This CLOSED and will be moved to Soapbox.
Moved from Install/Boot/Login.
@tux_peng.
When you have technical questions/problems, please start threads for every one of them. Try to use the forum category that fits best and create a title that at least contains some of the keywords. This is the best way to draw the attention of the right people to your thread. And then always explain what you have and use (version of openSUSE, desktop, …) and your problem. Good problem descriptions have three components:
- what did you do;
- what did you expect to be the results;
- ehat did you ghet instead.
For general information on how to ask questions ons the internet: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
This thread here is in Soapbox because that fits best the title given to it. Please, when anybody likes it to discuss the internall feelings of the OP, do it here. For technical help, please wait for eventual new threads to appear.
how long have you been using it so you start to hate it?
[quote="“tux_peng”]
The 1-click install failed forCheese\QUOTE]
so a feature failed for one app. it’s tragic. Tragic I tell you!
[QUOTE=tux_peng"]
My schoolwork require the google branded chrome browser, hard to install\QUOTE] why is your school work REQUIRE google branded browser? what can it do that other can’t? anyhow it is not that difficult to install, and I am a Linux noob(almost a virgin )
and what stopping you to use KDE tools?
I use what I need at the time.
it I need to use Yast I use it, if I need to use CLI I use it
if I need to use any other tool/app I uses it.
I am learning Linux and how to use it. and when I am told by some one to use a tool I follow the directions. so far worked for me 99% of time out of 100%
in the last 10 month, I had build out a file/VM server for my home.
convert my old laptop to opensuse LXDE (love how it works BTW)
and converting my main PC to Linux Mint as we speak(OpenSuse came a bit short on some functionality I need for this PC. I share it with my wife and daughter and need bit more user-friendliness than OpenSuse can give me.) I would love to have a more homogenized environment, as in all PC running the same distro, but just have to forgo the pipe-dream in favor of usefulness of each setup.
palling to rebuild my HTPC to Linux based XBMC or MythTV box.
If it doesn’t work, why offer 1-click install.
I gave OpenSUSE a week so far, I wanted to try something other than Kubuntu, Arch ran great- but took to much time, Solyd had to many GNOME apps in the KDE install
I tried Chromium, but video’s didn’t load; it’s labsim’s HTML5 beta client; it wasn’t hard to install Chrome once I found it
I also downloaded a couple games to test sound, I use a USB card, I also have HDMI audio, and sound on my mobo. I just installed pavucontroll- It doesn’t even see my iMic USB card! (This is a new system that I just built)
I’m gonna give OpenSUSE a while longer, but I may try Fedora or Mageia
I also downloaded a couple games to test sound, I use a USB card, I also have HDMI audio, and sound on my mobo. I just installed pavucontroll- It doesn’t even see my iMic USB card! (This is a new system that I just built)
Start a new thread with descriptive title, and I’m sure someone will be able to advise further. Is there are driver loaded for the USB device? If you have ‘usbutils’ package installed, then you can run the following command to check how the device is detected.
usb-devices
I’m gonna give OpenSUSE a while longer, but I may try Fedora or Mageia
Use what works. Linux is all about choices, and the willingness to learn. You’ll get all the help you need if you ask in the right way.
On Tue, 06 May 2014 21:16:01 +0000, tux peng wrote:
> I’m gonna give OpenSUSE a while longer, but I may try Fedora or Mageia
That’s fine, of course - but as others have stated (and I believe I said
in your original expression of frustration) - if you actually want help,
you need to give us details and separate the issues out into separate
threads in the appropriate forum.
This community is very willing to help those who need it and ask for it
in a constructive way.
But coming across as stomping in and yelling isn’t likely to get you the
help you need, and so your frustration and “hate” is likely to become
more of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Or, put another way, you attract
more bees with honey than vinegar, as the saying goes.
Jim
Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C
For the record i found it quite easy to install google chrome from googles website. Download the openSUSE .rpm double click on it once its downloaded, put in a password and your done.
I have watched mainly Fedora and openSUSE english forums for a long time.
I can state, that openSUSE forum has higher level than Fedora for me.
Atmosphere of openSUSE forum is better and it was one from main reasons of my transfer from Fedora to openSUSE.
[quote="“tux_peng,post:10,topic:100196”]
If it doesn’t work, why offer 1-click install.\QUOTE]
it does work most of the time. are you telling me that in any other distro, ahh what the hell, any other OS everything works 100% all the time?
a feature is offered because it gives you some advantage over doing things hard way, but it does not mean that this feature will solve all problems for all people and all situations.
I have a laptop with nVidia card, a full KDE install does not work on it. the laptop become completely unusable. does this mean that KDE is useless and not working?
no, it means KDE is not working for me, on this particular laptop. it works perfectly well on my desktop with an nVidia graphic card though.
a 1-Click install for nVidia driver works perfectly on both my laptop and my desktop
you need to pick the distro for your need. you need to think what your major and not negotiable needs are and pick the best distro to offer you the most, not just going out and trying any thing you feel like it and than complaining that something fails.
what exactly are your needs/wants for this computer setup?
as I point out in my earlier post, I want to have all my home setup to be homogenous. as in running same distro on all machines in the house. this way I can easily administrate and support all of them using the same tools and techniques. BUT that is not possible no matter how I try to do it.
why?
well I build my server on OpenSuse 13.1 + LXDE because it gives me all server things and a good light desktop to administer it. I do not like CLI as I am coming from 15+ years of strictly windows environment, my memory is bad in such way that I do not remember commands and things too well (it always been this way, something I remember and something I do not) and I want an easy (or easier) way to run and manage my server. OpenSuse + Yast gives this to me in a better way than Ubuntu, and it is a lighter distro based on my research.
no my laptop is also running OpenSuse 13.1+LXDE again because it gives mr what I want and need in a good light distro. and it works very very well.
my office desktop on the other hand is different story. I have to share it with my wife,daughter and other people thus I need a more noob friendly GUI that I could not setup with OpenSuse. thus Linux Mint to the rescue.
my HTPC have a different use. OpenSuse could not fulfill thus I am eying the OpenElec or Xubuntu for that use.
either I like it or not I have to pick the distro that is better suited for the job and deal with the consequences.
to add to my earlier post :
my HTPC have a different use. OpenSuse could not fulfill thus I am eying the OpenElec or Xubuntu for that use. again if you ask Why am I going through all that, well
my Laptop is used by me mostly for web surfing and light development.
as OpenSuse have Support for Mono I can do all that on it and have a nice small footprint distro on a 6+ years old laptop.
my desktop MUST do all that and have Office support (which I still get on my laptop as well) and be more windows like as I share it with other people, and it must have more multimedia support as I use it more often for video picture processing.
OpenSuse does support most of it but not in a way that Mint does. Mint is better in this respect and have a lot more support and applications for my needs as it also shares Ubuntu repos. and like it or not Ubuntu is in the front line of end user support and desktop friendly apps. everywhere I look for help for many features I see guides for Ubuntu and Mint overwhelming the other distros 10:1.
and again for HTPC most often used and recommended distro is Ubuntu/Ubuntu based
like Xbuntu, LinBuntu or something like it. See Mint on occasion as well.
this tells me that it might be the best distro(s) for this particular application.
Well for the one click install issue, well sometimes they are not the best solution for software installation.
I mean they are okay and do the job but sometimes its not a perfect solution.
On 2014-05-07 13:46, vl1969 wrote:
> my office desktop on the other hand is different story. I have to
> share it with my wife,daughter and other people thus I need a more
> noob friendly GUI that I could not setup with OpenSuse. thus Linux
> Mint to the rescue.
Well, if Mint solves your problem, use it! (But don’t hate us!).
Although I fail to understand why/what you could not set up…
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))
I didn’t say hated you or OpenSuse. I was responding to the OP and saying that
even though I was trying to setup a homogenous environment at home I still had to choose different distros for different needs.
OpenSuse is good for me on MY main server and MY Laptop. but Mint gives me better way to setup a friendlier GUI on the shared PC. maybe if I was a more knowledgeable in Linux I could do the same in OpenSuse but as it is I am not thus need to use what ever tools that works. also I have found that Ubuntu and derived distros have a bit more apps for a common user as well.
On 2014-05-12 18:26, vl1969 wrote:
> I didn’t say hated you or OpenSuse. I was responding to the OP and
> saying that
Oh! Sorry, I confused you with the OP.
As the thread has been moved, via nntp I can not easily see who he was.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))