If I upgrade to openSUSE 11.2...

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#1

I have 11.1, so I’m assuming that I can do the live update to 11.2, correct? So some questions:

  1. Will it update KDE to 4.3?
  2. Will it update all my non-swap partitions to ext4?
  3. Do I have to delete anything after live update?
  4. Are there any risks to live update instead of clean install?
#2

I dont think live update will be there actually, its only going to be featured in 11.2 and up as far as I know.
As for a forced update to EXT4, no I dont think its going to happen…
For many EXT4 is still too new
And no, I dont think there will be any risks for updating.
Even if you have to burn a new disk for 11.2 you can tell the installer not to touch your home partition.
You may want to try the 11.2 DVD version, that is if you have a DVD burner.
If not you can still customize things on the live CD.

#3

To upgrade from 11.1 to 11.2 it has been suggested like this:

change repo source to new version (11.1 -> 11.2) using Yast or Zypper

zypper ref
zypper in zypper libzypp
zypper dup

No guarantees.

And of course you will still be ext3.

I recently did a complete format and installed 11.2 RC1 to get ext4 in place. User files restored from backup.

#4

Thanks. A couple things:

  1. Do you know which version of KDE 4.3 it is? Is it 4.3.2?

  2. According to OpenSUSE’s own site (or a link they send you to) it DOES support live update from 11.1:
    https://features.opensuse.org/305634

With the 11.2 cycle, we want to offer users the ability to perform a live system upgrade in the manner of Debian’s dist-upgrade.

For the purpose of this cycle, we want to support dist-upgrade from the previous version (11.1) only, as this is a sufficiently complicated problem as is.

#5

Thanks!

Can someone explain to me:

  1. Why ext4 is supposed to be “better”
  2. What exactly is the “rpoblem” with ext4 that cause so many to avoid it?

I’ve read that there are cases where data can be lost - is this a real and common issue?

#6

kde4.3.1

I never said anything about not using ext4
ext4 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dataloss:
Can happen with any file system , much depends on the user:X

#7

Have you noticed if it’s faster?

#8

Boot time and strangely (I don’t know a reason) shutdown is quicker.
But that’s not just ext4 but the latest kernel.

#9

I´ll add a question here: Does an upgrade from 11.1 to 11.2 via zypper not change the filesystem? Is a full re-install the only way to catch on to ext4?

#10

changing file systems requires a partition to be formatted…you won’t
do that with zypper, nor would you want to…

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palladium

#11

not true in the case of ext3 -> ext4. You can keep your ext3 fs, upgrade with zypper, change entries in /etc/fstab from ext3 to ext4, add the ext4 module to /etc/sysconfig/kernel (if it’s not there already) and that’s about it. One may need to do further tweaking (including some FS options) and for all files to use extents, one may need to run e4defrag

#12

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:38:18 +0000, palladium wrote:

> changing file systems requires a partition to be formatted…you won’t
> do that with zypper, nor would you want to…

Normally, yes, but ext2/ext3/ext4 can IIRC be changed on the fly (I know
ext2 and ext3 can be swapped, and I recall reading that ext3 can be made
ext4 in a similar manner using tune2fs).

Jim

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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Moderator

#13

> not true in the case of ext3 -> ext4.

WOW…that is like, magic!! :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

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palladium