I am using a library computer because I can’t afford internet I thought however that if I told my comuper to be a server that it would pay for it self (internet I mean).
1: how do I tell it to be a server
2: how does payment work(like when someone visits your site).
3: how do I tell it what to serve
4: how do I get Google and other sutch search engines to put it on there list (like if someone types in free OS and my computer is serving that,) (kind of like advertizing).
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 02:16:02 +0530, ballsystemlord
<ballsystemlord@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
>
> I am using a library computer because I can’t afford internet I thought
> however that if I told my comuper to be a server that it would pay for
> it self (internet I mean).
>
> 1: how do I tell it to be a server
> 2: how does payment work(like when someone visits your site).
> 3: how do I tell it what to serve
> 4: how do I get Google and other sutch search engines to put it on
> there list (like if someone types in free OS and my computer is serving
> that,) (kind of like advertizing).
>
i would recommend that you start using the books in the library, not only
the computers, and find out how “the internet” works – don’t just play
games or watch movies. i don’t know where you live, but i think it’s
likely that you find a friendly person in your library who will show you
which books to look into to learn some basic facts about internet and
computers in general. how old are you, by the way?
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phani.
On 2011-08-04 22:46, ballsystemlord wrote:
>
> I am using a library computer because I can’t afford internet I thought
> however that if I told my comuper to be a server that it would pay for
> it self (internet I mean).
No way! X’-)
Read books. Study. Learn.
A web page will not make money unless you have something really interesting
to give others.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 20:46:02 +0000, ballsystemlord wrote:
> I am using a library computer because I can’t afford internet I thought
> however that if I told my comuper to be a server that it would pay for
> it self (internet I mean).
>
> 1: how do I tell it to be a server
You install the server packages.
> 2: how does payment work(like when someone visits your site).
> 3: how do I tell it what to serve
> 4: how do I get Google and other sutch search engines to put it on there
> list (like if someone types in free OS and my computer is serving that,)
> (kind of like advertizing).
I would suggest reading some books on business basics and building a
business case. You can’t just put a server online and presto, money
starts rolling in. You have to offer something people want at a price
they’re willing to pay.
Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C
I would suggest reading some books on business basics and building a
business case. You can’t just put a server online and presto, money
starts rolling in.
I may be too mutch an entrepreneur but I understand that there is no quick honest way to money; however I thought my chances would be better online where trillions of people are looking for stuff.
You have to offer something people want at a price
they’re willing to pay.
I intended to offer greate free comuper programs like this one!!
I have lots of free stuff I’ve checked out and it works.
On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:16:03 +0000, ballsystemlord wrote:
> I may be too mutch an entrepreneur but I understand that there is no
> quick honest way to money; however I thought my chances would be better
> online where trillions of people are looking for stuff.
With only 6 billion people on the planet, obviously you won’t have
‘trillions’ of people looking for stuff. 
> I intended to offer greate free comuper programs like this one!! I have
> lots of free stuff I’ve checked out and it works.
Here’s the thing, selling “free stuff” tends not to work really well,
because it’s free.
Again, I’d suggest you do some reading on building a business. That’s
not something we can really help you with here, nor is it the purpose of
these forums.
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C
I belive I got my figures mixed up there:shame:. Mutch thanks to the poeple who suggested looking for books at the library, NOT because I never thought of that myself but because I have new keywords to lookunder like: Perl, Python, Ruby, Java, etc:). I shall study as you guys suggest, it’s the best thing to do considering that that opinion has been recomended across the board; and what can it hurt except my wish to get “it” now?
thanks!
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 01:06:03 +0530, ballsystemlord
<ballsystemlord@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
>
> I belive I got my figures mixed up there:shame:. Mutch thanks to the
> poeple who suggested looking for books at the library, NOT because I
> never thought of that myself but because I have new keywords to
> lookunder like: Perl, Python, Ruby, Java, etc:). I shall study as you
> guys suggest, it’s the best thing to do considering that that opinion
> has been recomended across the board; and what can it hurt except my
> wish to get “it” now?
>
> thanks!
>
i’m glad you see the wisdom of this; in the long run this will bring much
better results than trying something without really knowing what you’re
trying to do. i’m not sure if your keywords are the best to start with:
Perl, Python, Ruby, Java. those are pretty specialized subjects. but if
you start with those, you’ll soon find that you’re missing some of the
basics, and then go looking for that. good luck, and feel free to keep
asking here – preferably with questions that aren’t as broad as “i’d like
to get online.”
i don’t know much about good books to get into the basics of it all;
perhaps others have ideas?
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phani.
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 19:36:03 +0000, ballsystemlord wrote:
> I belive I got my figures mixed up there:shame:. Mutch thanks to the
> poeple who suggested looking for books at the library, NOT because I
> never thought of that myself but because I have new keywords to
> lookunder like: Perl, Python, Ruby, Java, etc:). I shall study as you
> guys suggest, it’s the best thing to do considering that that opinion
> has been recomended across the board; and what can it hurt except my
> wish to get “it” now?
>
> thanks!
Glad we were able to be of assistance.
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C
Hey you have been of more help then that!! I was thinking about why Hendrsj thought I would make money seling free software and I relized that when I was a kid I probably asked “Why does it cost so mutch to get online?” and the person compared it to my grandmothers cable service so I’ve allways thought that when someone visits your site you get some money out of there monthly bill and had it not been for his straight forward questions I might have made a big mistake . Unfortunetly the books in the library are between 3 and 10+ years out dated and most don’t give many examples and most are geared to window users; so though I am learning I am also looking online for dowloadable manuals. In the meantime I am seeking and waiting for other ways to get online.
Mind, for lots of free software it’s illegal (by licensing) to ask money for it.
Another thing, which might be more powerful than reading outdated books: ask around in your own circles if somebody can actively help you in setting up your business. May cost a bit, but will save lots of possibly mis-spent money. For example: don’t go for a server of your own, but hire a cloud server or virtual private server.
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 00:46:03 +0530, Knurpht
<Knurpht@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
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> Mind, for lots of free software it’s illegal (by licensing) to ask money
> for it.
> Another thing, which might be more powerful than reading outdated
> books: ask around in your own circles if somebody can actively help you
> in setting up your business. May cost a bit, but will save lots of
> possibly mis-spent money. For example: don’t go for a server of your
> own, but hire a cloud server or virtual private server.
>
i’m not sure if setting up a business is really his priority at the
moment. if i undertand this thread right, the only thing he has to offer
is having a website showing free software, and he thought that would
automatically generate money.
i think his priority is “getting online,” i.e., have internet access at
home. he already has a computer (if i remember correctly), and what’s
missing is internet connection at home; to finance that, he wanted to make
his computer available as a server. now he knows that that on it’s own
doesn’t generate money. the internet is mostly free; only people or
institutions that have something others agree to pay money for –
knowledge or training, copyrighted material to download, physical things
sold online and delivered by mail, etc. – can make a business out of it.
(and don’t even think of selling copyrighted stuff online; people who know
much more are getting caught with this and have to pay huge fines and/or
spend time in jail.)
in what part of the world and in what conditions do you live, that
internet access isn’t something easily & cheaply available? i can’t
imagine this being a problem in most families, boarding schools, or other
group accomoadations in the (technically) ‘civilized world.’ either where
you live internet isn’t widely available, or whoever you’re living with
won’t let you use it, is all i can think of.
how comes you can afford a computer, but not internet access?
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phani.
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:46:30 +0000, phanisvara wrote:
> how comes you can afford a computer, but not internet access?
Arguably, a computer is a fixed cost without a recurring monthly charge.
If one invests in a used computer, that also reduces the cost quite a bit.
Many online services here in the US also want a 1-2 year contract (in
exchange for which they provide the hardware to connect). Picking up an
inexpensive laptop is easy (I did this myself - got one with a bad
motherboard at no cost, new motherboard for about $25, and now I have a
working laptop).
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C
Around here you can get a very decent used computer (P4 3GHz) for the cost of a month or two’s broadband access (and not including the setup charges. contract etc). I disposed of a few (no monitor though) for a friend via eBay for average of around $20. And of course there are lots of people giving away old computers usable with Linux. But it differs from country to country. As Jim points out, getting a computer is a one-off cost.
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 08:36:03 +0530, ken yap
<ken_yap@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
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> phanisvara;2378517 Wrote:
>> how comes you can afford a computer, but not internet access?
>
> Around here you can get a very decent used computer (P4 3GHz) for the
> cost of a month or two’s broadband access (and not including the setup
> charges. contract etc). I disposed of a few (no monitor though) for a
> friend via eBay for average of around $20. And of course there are lots
> of people giving away old computers usable with Linux. But it differs
> from country to country. As Jim points out, getting a computer is a
> one-off cost.
>
yes, i’m aware of these possibilities, but still wondering what the OP’s
situation is. i’ve been following this thread from the beginning and
somehow got the idea (possibly mistaken) that we’re dealing with a person
who a) knows absolutely nothing about “the internet,” and b) may or may
not be in his early teens. before suggesting to him to set up his business
‘in the cloud,’ i thought it a good idea to find out what his
circumstances are. in case i’m not mistaken with my assumption, it would
be better to suggest a couple of online resources to him that explain some
basic facts.
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phani.