Hy!Tried to install TW 32 bit on Dell Latitude D505 https://www.dell.com/downloads/us/products/latit/d505_spec.pdf… with Pentium M 735 (and IDE 64 GB SDD von Transcend).Ended with seg faults, did not boot.Have an old Debian Jessie 32bit, first try could not install software and aborted. Then I removed partitions and copied over some files to fresh FAT partition. Worked. Removed partition and install of Debian worked.Is there a good chance to try again the 32bit TW? …or is there anything that can not work with TW 32bit re the hardware of the D505?
I’m writing this from a Fujitsu Celsius H230 laptop with an Intel Pentium M 760 processor; also 32bit only and openSUSE Tumbleweed installed.
Is your processor capable of PAE? If not, you may need to choose a different kernel version, as the default kernel for 32bit is kernel-4.10.3-1-pae.
But I tried to use a ssd with my laptop too lately and got a lot of problems during boot. With a hdd it works just fine.
Hendrik
Hi again!
From what I read here:
Intel Pentium M 735 (Dothan)
PAE - yes, but maybe kernel doesn’t see it…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_M
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
…could try this boot option proposed in the second link
forcepae--forcepae
Do you have any How-to for kernel transplantation? No idea how to do that!
If you can boot a Debian, “lscpu” should show you in the line “Flags”, if the processor has pae.
Do you have any How-to for kernel transplantation? No idea how to do that!
Sorry, no. I didn’t need that.
Hendrik
Hi again!
lscpu gives:
lscpu
Architecture: i686
CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit
Byte Order: Little Endian
CPU(s): 1
On-line CPU(s) list: 0
Thread(s) per core: 1
Core(s) per socket: 1
Socket(s): 1
Vendor ID: GenuineIntel
CPU family: 6
Model: 13
Model name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz
Stepping: 6
CPU MHz: 600.000
CPU max MHz: 1600.0000
CPU min MHz: 600.0000
BogoMIPS: 1195.12
I miss the line with the flags. My system shows:
lscpu
Architecture: i686
CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit
Byte Order: Little Endian
CPU(s): 1
On-line CPU(s) list: 0
Thread(s) per core: 1
Core(s) per socket: 1
Socket(s): 1
NUMA node(s): 1
Vendor ID: GenuineIntel
CPU family: 6
Model: 13
Model name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 2.00GHz
Stepping: 8
CPU MHz: 800.000
CPU max MHz: 2000.0000
CPU min MHz: 800.0000
BogoMIPS: 1596.42
NUMA node0 CPU(s): 0
Flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss tm pbe nx bts est tm2
Otherwise you can try to get the info right from the source:
cat /proc/cpuinfo
Hendrik
ok…$ cat /proc/cpuinfoprocessor : 0vendor_id : GenuineIntelcpu family : 6model : 13model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHzstepping : 6microcode : 0x18cpu MHz : 1600.000cache size : 2048 KBfdiv_bug : nof00f_bug : nocoma_bug : nofpu : yesfpu_exception : yescpuid level : 2wp : yesflags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss tm pbe bts est tm2bogomips : 3187.01clflush size : 64cache_alignment : 64address sizes : 32 bits physical, 32 bits virtualpower management:…so: No PAE Flag (!). But as outlined in the links above, the processor is capable of PAE, but does not present the FLAG…
ok…
$ cat /proc/cpuinfoprocessor : 0vendor_id : GenuineIntelcpu family : 6model : 13model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHzstepping : 6microcode : 0x18cpu MHz : 1600.000cache size : 2048 KBfdiv_bug : nof00f_bug : nocoma_bug : nofpu : yesfpu_exception : yescpuid level : 2wp : yesflags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss tm pbe bts est tm2bogomips : 3187.01clflush size : 64cache_alignment : 64address sizes : 32 bits physical, 32 bits virtualpower management:
…so: No PAE Flag (!). But as outlined in the links above, the processor is capable of PAE, but does not present the FLAG… …(sorry, problem with javascript on SUSE page on this computer with TW 64bit, so no adequate formatting of posts…)
OK,
if the cpu doesn’t show pae, we should change the kernel. I think “kernel-default” is without pae. I’m not sure, if the DVD contains it, but in a network installation you can choose to install it. In the installer you see a summary screen after the screens with all those decisions. In the “Software” section you can select a different kernel. Maybe kernel-pae gets installed (additionally) anyway, so you may need to select the right kernel in the grub boot menu.
Hendrik
I just tried installing TW i586 on a Dell D430 this weekend and came up similarly empty-handed.
After a network install, it failed to boot the kernel, seemingly different failures each time.
At one point an error said missing a dependency in initrd for file system (I chose XFS)
It’s been running Leap 15 fine for a while but very short of RAM (hardware limited to 2GB), so I decided to save memory using 32 bit
I ran out of patience after 2 complete reinstalls, so now it runs Debian Stretch 32 bit instead, which is fine…
FYI lscpu:
Architecture: i686
CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit
Byte Order: Little Endian
CPU(s): 2
On-line CPU(s) list: 0,1
Thread(s) per core: 1
Core(s) per socket: 2
Socket(s): 1
Vendor ID: GenuineIntel
CPU family: 6
Model: 15
Model name: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU U7700 @ 1.33GHz
Stepping: 13
CPU MHz: 1333.000
CPU max MHz: 1333.0000
CPU min MHz: 800.0000
BogoMIPS: 2660.03
Virtualization: VT-x
L1d cache: 32K
L1i cache: 32K
L2 cache: 2048K
Flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm lahf_lm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority dtherm
If you or the TW installer selected PAE instead of Default kernel, you were doomed by 1118689 – 32bit x86 4.19 4.20 5.0 5.1 5.2-rc pae and vanilla kernels randomly lockup or trigger reboot
…still using some old 32bit Dell machines (oldest from 2002) with Debian 32bit as “Swiss army knives” for network administration etc. still fun to see these old goodies up and running.