I really need a lot of help [Starting with installing wine]

I have just downloaded and installed opensuse 11.1. I thought I could
manage to learn the fundamentals of linux by myself, or at least get a
little right.

After 5 hours of accomplishing absolutely nothing I thought I would try
and get some help from opensuse.org.

If there is anyone who has a little patience and is willing to explain
some fundamentals to me I would really appreciate it.

The first thing I would to learn is how to install Wine. I downloaded
the newest version but I think I downloaded the windows installer
version. I think I managed 9using yast) to find a online version to
install, but with the bandwidth being so expensive in this country I
would really like to find out if I can install it from the version I
downloaded.

I apologise if this is the wrong section to post this in and appreciate
any help offered.


Connaver

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Connaver;1941883 Wrote:
> I have just downloaded and installed opensuse 11.1. I thought I could
> manage to learn the fundamentals of linux by myself, or at least get a
> little right.
>
Dear Connaver, wine is not the best first step to take to “…learn the
fundamentals of linux…”!!!
Quit the GUI, go to command line with a good book about bash wide open
on the table!

Won’t you learn linux starting with windows applications … or no?

Good luck!


acez

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There’s a wine tutorial for openSUSE here:
‘Geoff’s Linux tips - wine’
(http://gdr.homelinux.com/suse-tips/wine-apps.php)

To install the contemporary RPMs, add the ‘repository he mentions’
(http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories#Wine) and
you should have the near-latest with the added advantage that it has
been tested and integrated into openSUSE.


‘Drop in and visit some time’
(http://www.swerdna.net.au/linux.html).

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I used Linux for three years before I felt the need to install WINE.

what exactly is it that you feel you need WINE for?

there is very real little reason to immediately try to run
Windows[tm] programs under Linux.

There are all sorts of programs to replace those. Have a look at
http://www.osalt.com/ and
http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html

if this posting is not helpful, don’t get mad…i’d give you some
fundamentals but i don’t know where to start. That is, are you coming
from Ubuntu or Win95. Are you familiar with using a command line in
OS/2 or Vista? Have you yet read any of the online information
available at openSUSE.org?

like:

basic reading list:

If new to Linux please read this:
http://forums.opensuse.org/looking-something/389257-new-linux.html
http://forums.opensuse.org/looking-something-other-than-support/389257-new-linux.html#post1835888
above includes links to these–READ THEM

Before you install SuSE 11.0 read this. If you already installed and
it all went sour, read it BEFORE you reinstall:

http://forums.opensuse.org/install-boot-login/309444-newbies-suse-11-1-pre-installation-please-read.html

Ready to use Multimedia? Read:

http://forums.opensuse.org/applications/multimedia/309430-welcome-multimedia-sub-area.html

When you get frustrated, and BEFORE you give up and go back, read
“Linux is Not Windows”:
http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm

Partitioning/Install Guide
http://forums.opensuse.org/how-faq/389511-partitioning-install-guide.html

HowTo Boot / Multiboot openSUSE and Windows (2000, XP, Vista - any
mix) using the GRUB bootloader
http://www.swerdna.net.au/linhowtoboot.html
http://tinyurl.com/5eqy8k

When you have learned all you think you need to know read “LINUX:
Rute User’s Tutorial and Exposition”
http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
http://tinyurl.com/r6j4w

How to install and boot 145 operating systems in a PC
http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147959
http://tinyurl.com/36c9f5

Fixing vista multiboot with openSUSE - openSUSE Forums
http://forums.opensuse.org/install-boot-login/386603-fixing-vista-multiboot-opensuse.html
http://tinyurl.com/57zlz7

WOW.

First of all I thought no one had replied. And then I couldn’t find the
post (I’ve just taken a more in depth look at the search function)

Thank you for your replies, let me see if I can answer all questions.

First of all, a brief explaination as to how I got to this point:

I have played around with Fedora previously, but not on any serious
scale. I run an IT business and want to offer my clients alternatives to
expensive microsoft operating systems. When I heard from a friend that
Suse could run windows apps I thought it was worth a look at. When I
started looking I saw openSuse had a 64-bit version (that really got my
attention).

My thoughts at the time were: “If there is an OS that can run windows
apps with no problem and has an easy GUI that is not difficult to become
familiar with then I might just work.” Unfortunately people who have
worked on MS Office and have other Windows based software do not want to
change from MS Windows. So an alternative would have to fulfil the
requirements (i.e. easy to familiarize themselves with and can run at
least office.)

But, in order to offer this choice to my clients I would have to learn
how to use (and fix) Linux myself.

Then I install openSuse 11.1 on my pc, (which I thought came with wine
already installed) and started playing around. The first two days I got
nothing right. Eventually I found out I could download and install wine
with Yast, but I wanted to install the version I already downloaded
before installed openSuse. After many hours of battling and fighting I
eventually gave in and installed with Yast.

As a side note after a further 3 days and much searching on the net I
finally got the installer for my motherboard drivers to start up. I felt
like throwing a party. Unfortunately something about the kernel did not
allow me to install the drivers, but it was a start.

I cam accross the term -bash- but did not that that point start reading
up into it. At this point, one week later I now have a rough idea of how
much I must actually learn. It does not help that I still have a Windows
mentality.

As a last note on that very long exaplaination as to how I got here: I
have been in the IT business for over 5 years and know how to fix
computers (hardware) and sort out software issues on Windows XP and
Vista.

To aces:

Thank you for reply. I’ll get my hands on some media about bash
commands

To swerdna:

Thank you for the links to the wine help pages and the wine
repositories. It might actually help if I can get into the wine
configuration menu (I looked everywhere for it but could not find it)
Now I can.

To Yosuf Mossad Mohammed Vitriolus:

Thank you very much for all the links. Your effort is appreciated. To
be honest I have been very busy these past few months (with the economy
hurting business badly) I have not had the time to sit for a fe hours
and look through the forums. The little time I was able to sit and look
I did not find posts to help me.

Now I have a basic starting point to work from. I start reading
everything you guys linked to and then hopefully I’ll be able to sort
out the problems I currently have.

But there is one question I’ll ask right now. Through a miss click I
have lost the section on my start bar that shows which windows I have
open at the moment. So the only way I can see or navigate through my
windows is though alt+tab. I have tried every single widget I can by
right clicking on the start bar and adding widgets but that didn’t work.
Does anyone know how I can put that section back?

Thanks again for all your help. Hopefully I’ll be able to get to a
point to be a real contributer one day.


Connaver

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Connaver;1944278 Wrote:
>
> But there is one question I’ll ask right now. Through a miss click I
> have lost the section on my start bar that shows which windows I have
> open at the moment. So the only way I can see or navigate through my
> windows is though alt+tab. I have tried every single widget I can by
> right clicking on the start bar and adding widgets but that didn’t work.
> Does anyone know how I can put that section back?
>

Quick and dirty and if not working, you can roll back.

Rename ~/.kde4 (home directory of the user who has the problem),
close/restart xwindow session. Recreation of that hidden directory
should be automatic and should fix the problem (maybe…)

Bye, bye.


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Aces

I did a bit of snooping and found my way to the KDE irc channel.
Speaking to someone there was a lot of help and I got everything to work
and look right. It was just a widget “Task Manager”. I was there before
and thought I had tried all the widgets but I must have missed that
one.

But thanks for that suggestion. If I manage to completely mess up the
task bar again I’ll give that a try, And I probably will since I’m
experimenting with everything :), soehow I have already downgraded
myself from KDE4 to KDE3.5 I think.

Perhaps you can answer another question for me, might save me from
hours of searching.

I have another hard drive full of files that I want to access. It was a
second hard drive when I still had windows XP. openSuse picks it up but
does not want to allow me access to it.

This is the message it returns when I try to access the drive through
the dolphin application. Clicking on the partition name in “My Computer”
does not do anything.

“An error occured while accessing “Personal”, the system responded:
org.freedesktop.Hal.Desktop.permissionDeniedByPolicy:
org.freedesktop.hal.storage.mount-fixed Auth_admin_fixed_always ←
(action,result)”


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