I need help to get my PC to complete booting

Opensuse 12.3
KDE 4.10.5

I don’t know what went wrong.
I was running Firefox which had a few tabs open, including a radio station. Also running was the organizer.
Well all of a sudden, the only thing that showed any signs of life was the mouse moving. Everything else was dead, not working. Then the screen went black.
In order to restart I had to hold down the power switch.
It restarted then it looked like it was trying to startup Firefox and whatever else I had running and it went dead again eventually leading to a black screen.

Is there a way to startup with a clean desktop and not try and restore Firefox and whatever I might have had running ?

As an aside, I also got an unusual error when I was running KMyMoney and I posted it on the KDE site.
The error said something about

Executable: kmymoney PID: 17885 Signal: Bus error (7)

thanks

Well, somehow I fumbled around and it’s now working and I don’t know how it happened. I think that after I got the Firefox crashed message and told it to restart rather than recover, it started up.

I still would like to know what the steps would be to do what in Windows is “Start in Safe Mode”.

Also, from the Boot menu when the command logging stops at the “Reached Graphical Interface”, what do I do next ?

You can do a console login from the GUI Login

Or - earlier than that you can boot with the DVD in to recovery, if it’s really that bad or from grub you can edit to a level 3 boot.

I never really found windows safe mode any use whatsoever.

On 2013-10-11 17:26, hextejas wrote:
>
> Well, somehow I fumbled around and it’s now working and I don’t know how
> it happened. I think that after I got the Firefox crashed message and
> told it to restart rather than recover, it started up.
>
> I still would like to know what the steps would be to do what in Windows
> is “Start in Safe Mode”.

Dunno.
You can boot into a different desktop, and there start firefox in safe
mode - for this, start “firefox --help” in a terminal; one of the
options tells the exact syntax for its failsafe mode.

> Also, from the Boot menu when the command logging stops at the “Reached
> Graphical Interface”, what do I do next ?

With the graphical interface dead?

I log as root in text mode, do “init 3”, followed by “init 5”. If that
also fails, I do again “init 3”, then “startx”, which will run as root,
so careful. The purpose is only to see if it starts or not, and read the
messages in the terminal. Running “startx” as user was disabled a year
or two ago, you have to change some setting to allow it.

In case you do not know, with the graphical terminal running, pressing
“ctrl-alt-f1…f6” goes to text mode, and “ctrl-alt-f7” (or f8) goes to
graphical mode.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))

Is there a way to startup with a clean desktop and not try and restore Firefox and whatever I might have had running ?

If KDE is trying to restore your session, including some applications which are having issues, it might be hanging your login.

You can disable auto-restore of previously open applications when loggin in under in the KDE “Session Management” control module - find it with alt+f2 and type “session”

Of course, that pre-supposes you can log in in KDE successfully. If you can not, and have Gnome or another desktop environment installed, log into it and in the command line start the KDE Sytem Configuration tool by running: systemsettings or *kcmshell4 kcmsmserver *

I think this is what was happening Lews, in that I had been having troubles in Yast2 trying to install some mozilla patches. I filed a bug about them.
Also, I ALT-F2ed and disabled the “restore previous sessions” feature as I think that was what was giving me grief.

Also, I will need to poke around and see what these “Alt-Fn” does.

After I got back to a desktop, I did what I think was a reinstall of Firefox before trying to start it again.
Correct me if I was wrong but what I did was to select Mozilla in Yast2 then change the box to the left to a small green arrow which I think means to reinstall it.
Anyhow, it appears to be working now.

thanks

No, I did not know what they did. Good to know.

In addition press ctrl-alt-backspace twice to kill a GUI

On 2013-10-12 20:46, gogalthorp wrote:
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> In addition press ctrl-alt-backspace twice to kill a GUI

I forgot about ctrl-alt-f10 - a display of the most important log messages.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))

If the session restore is the issue, logout, login on the konsole, and remove the content of ~/.kde4/share/config/session/, the re-login on KDE.

Ok, I am practicing this short of actually doing the removes.

I used the KDE interface to log out and it took me to a login screen.
I did a CTL-ALT-F1 which opened a Konsole window
I logged in as Root figuring that I might need it for doing removals.
I navigated to ~/.kde4/share/config/session/ and there were 4 files in there:

file:///home/hexdump/.kde4/share/config/session/kmix_10117cbdfe6000137633463700000036130008_1376335256_227891
file:///home/hexdump/.kde4/share/config/session/kmix_1018013f172159000137640079900000016230009_1380550902_230330
file:///home/hexdump/.kde4/share/config/session/kwin_10117cbdfe6000137633462700000036130000_1376335256_376505
file:///home/hexdump/.kde4/share/config/session/kwin_1018013f172159000137640224100000016360000_1380550902_868969

then exited.
I used a CTL-ALT-F7 to return me to the login screen and here I am again.

Questions:

  1. When I was in the Konsole and navigating and removing files, is there a better command line tool to be used other than cd, ls -l, rm, etc ?
  2. Had I of removed the 4 files above, what would have been the effect after I logged in ?

thanks again

On 2013-10-13 20:06, hextejas wrote:

> I used the KDE interface to log out and it took me to a login screen.
> I did a CTL-ALT-F1 which opened a Konsole window

We call that one “console” - the ‘K’ stands for KDE :slight_smile:

> I logged in as Root figuring that I might need it for doing removals.

Huh, no: you are going to work inside your home, so you don’t need it.
And, if you write something, it will be owned by root inside your home,
which can be a problem later.

Suggestion: in text mode you can use the file browser ‘mc’, Midnight
Commander. Maybe you have to install it - which you can also do in text
mode, as both YaST and zypper work there.

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))