I got another PC and plan to put Leap on it - no windows

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#1

It is an HP Pavilion AiO (Touch Smart) TS 20-f430z, x64 based,
UEFI(Secure boot has been disabled),
AMD Radeon HD 8240 graphics,
Qualcom Atheros 802.11b/g/n Wifi,
Realtek PCIe family Ethernet controller,
500GB HDD(seagate) W/standard SATA controller.
I pretty much think everything except the Realtek Ethernet is in or on or controlled by the Intel chipset.
<<This is probably to much information.>>

NO hybrid graphics!

I bought it from a small business that thought it didn’t work anymore. A few hours with the the HP diagnostics, and the Seagate Seatools did not find problems.

I plan to put Leap 15 on the HDD, and remove Win10 (I already have Win10 machines).
I am not ready to take the plunge to TW. Just not an adventuresome sort of user.

Does anyone see likely problems in that list up top?

#2

I don’t know about the AMD graphics. Somebody with experience will comment (I hope).

Everything else looks as if it should be fine

#3

My old HP Compaq ( am using to type this) that will hopefully be replaced by the AiO has AMD Radeon graphics, but on a PCI card instead of ‘combined with the processor’. That is what may be the kicker.
The full specs are here https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c04024136 It doesn’t have any of the optional hardware.

#4

I note that the graphics specs is listed as: AMD Radeon HD 8240 integrated graphics (combined with processor)

I think this is the pertinent chipset and described as a Kalindi GPU
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2202/radeon-hd-8240-igp
although the HD 8000 series generally referred to as HAINAN family
https://en.opensuse.org/HCL:AMD_video_cards
so should be supported by the open source ‘radeon’ driver.

#5

and the other (default) open source driver, modesetting, integral to the Xorg server.

#6

Oh, boy! A new adventure! I am watching…:shake:

#7

Yes, that is another option available. :slight_smile:

#8

deano_ferarri referred to it as being masochistic in another thread.
I prefer to call it being OCD.
In other words, look for my name and a big H E L P sign.

Seriously though, I will put Xfce on at install and go get the KDE and other DE/Repo apps that I want to try.

#9

Note some realtek chips require proprietary drivers. They are available from packman. But you will not be able to download until you have them :’(. So you will need a working Internet machine and a way to move the rpms to the new machine.

#10

The machine has Qualcom Atheros 802.11b/g/n Wifi,
Once installed over WiFi, I should be able to get packman for the Realtek Ethernet if required…?

#11

If the WiFi works yes or from another machine you just download the rpms copy to new machine and install. Don’t know much about WiFi generally don’t use it so you may want to check if the open source drivers support that WiFi chip set

#12

Description when I search for ‘realtek’ in YaST software manager from the packman repo.


This is the Linux device driver released for RealTek RTL8168B/8111B, RTL8168C/8111C, RTL8168CP/8111CP, RTL8168D/8111D, RTL8168DP/8111DP, and RTL8168E/8111E Gigabit Ethernet controllers with PCI-Express interface.

My Reatek is ‘controlled by the processor’, so I need to dig a bit deeper before I destroy windows no that AiO to see if I can find which Ethernet it is.
The machine hopefully will be Ethernet and not WiFi except occasionally.

#13

You can boot with a live distro, and report back with

/sbin/lspci -nnk

or filtered for network class devices

/sbin/lspci -nnk|grep -A3 '\02'

If no network connectivity, take a photo, or copy to a text file and transfer to a memory stick for posting here.

#14

OK, but it will be a few days before I get to it again. I fried the HDD somehow. HP diagnostics and Seatools both fail on DST tests. And I don’t have another internal SATA drive to put in it.
At least it will be a clean hard drive without having to re-partition windows out.

I’ll tell ya, it seems like me and Linux installs are destined to cause a lot of problems.

#15

On 07/18/2018 09:16 PM, Bill L wrote:
>
> deano_ferrari;2874153 Wrote:
>> You can boot with a live distro, and report back with
>>>
> Code:
> --------------------
> > > /sbin/lspci -nnk
> --------------------
>>>
>> or filtered for network class devices
>>>
> Code:
> --------------------
> > > /sbin/lspci -nnk|grep -A3 ‘[02’[/color]
> --------------------
>>>
>> If no network connectivity, take a photo, or copy to a text file and
>> transfer to a memory stick for posting here.
>
> OK, but it will be a few days before I get to it again. I fried the HDD
> somehow. HP diagnostics and Seatools both fail on DST tests. And I
> don’t have another internal SATA drive to put in it.
> At least it will be a clean hard drive without having to re-partition
> windows out.
>
> I’ll tell ya, it seems like me and Linux installs are destined to cause
> a lot of problems.
>
>

It’s just a learning curve we have all have had to deal with. :slight_smile:

–
Ken
linux since 1984
S.u.S.E./openSUSE since 1998

#16

I have changed my mind about Windows on the HP AiO.
When the blank HDD is in, I plan to put a small partition with WinXP Pro on first(yeah I know the ‘vulnerabilities’ exist) for printing to my Canon multi-function that is not Linux supported at all.
Then try my best to get Leap 15 on the rest of the drive.

#17

I would recommend running that in a VM as a guest, rather than a dual boot configuration.

#18

Why is setting up a VM for XP is better than install and dual boot? Would take the same amount of space on the drive right?
just asking.

#19

At least some of the danger of the insecure antique OS can be sandboxed by the VM. If the PC is new enough, XP might not be installable any other way.

#20

Yes, along with mrmazda’s reply with respect to sandboxing, it also means that you can have the Windows guest fired up with the openSUSE (host OS), which means if/when you want to print something in Linux, you’d just print to file (ideally to a shared folder also accessible by the guest), and then print via Windows. Network printers are easier to deal with, but if it is a USB-connected printer it is possible to use USB pass-through so that Windows has direct connectivity with the pinter as required. (My suggestion in another thread of yours was about how that might be automated, so that Windows would automatically print a PDF document placed in a particular folder on demand, essentially turning it into a print server for you.)

If/when you get closer to implementing this, then open a thread for the nuts and bolts details perhaps.