I can's boot into Linux Desktop???

Hi all, been a very long time since I have been on here!! Anyway my HD went down a few days ago, so I bought a new one and thought I would download Opensuse 12.2 to go with a fresh install of Windows 7. I installed windows first and then installed Linux, however I am unable to boot into the Linux desktop? All I get is a consol window(the install had completed). It has been years since I have used consol and for the life of me I cant remember any commands. Any ideas on whats happening or how I can boot up the desktop screen?

John

On 01/07/2013 02:46 PM, MW0DBB wrote:
> Any ideas on whats happening
> or how I can boot up the desktop screen?

welcome back, but no error messages during install??

did you check the downloaded iso with md5 sum before you burned the
disk? and then did you, boot from the disk and have it self test itself
(select “Check Installation Media” and NOT “Installation” first?

did you read and follow any of the other great hints found or linked
from the download page?? (like: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Download_help
or http://doc.opensuse.org/products/opensuse/openSUSE/opensuse-startup/ ??)

just saying you installed and boot to a console gives us so very little
direction in helping you solve your problem…

hardware??
video??
etc etc etc


dd http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat

The installation went all ok, I even selected manual configuration so I could check my settings. There was no error messages during install however it did hang for a good 20 mins when detecting previous installs of Linux. I have had problems before when booting into linux on old versions as I have had graphis conflicts? The card I’m using is a ATI 4890.

John

This is what I get if I do startx.

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Sorry it’s the only way I can get the picture up.

John

That’s by design. You cannot start X11 as normal user by default. Try as root (not recommending to work as root but just to test whether X starts).

I do not think a normal user has permission to use startx under openSUSE. What desktop environment or package set did you try to install? Did you try using a display manager like xdm/lightdm?

On 01/07/2013 05:46 PM, MW0DBB wrote:
> This is what I get if I do startx.

so, linux is not a dead operating system…nor one controlled by huge
corporations moving at a snails pace (but a HIGH profit snails pace)…

that is, things have changed…lots and lots of the stuff you remember
from last decades Linux (or SUSE) don’t work like you expect…

pick up a new ‘thinking cap’ and do lots of reading (the other two are
right–startx doesn’t work like it used to…forget it! trouble is, i’m
still running 11.4 Evergreen because i’ve gone to the trouble or TIME to
understand all that has changed in the 12 series, but these terms are
important: systemd and grub2)

you might TRY working through the instructions for a “black screen”
here: http://tinyurl.com/23mgej6
or video driver selection, here: http://tinyurl.com/37v9y7m

but pay attention to the others here because those two references
might only help me (in an 11 series version) and not you…

and, read my sig caveat prior to trying anything i dribble…


dd http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat

I installed kde which is what I normally go for!

When I did su, I was able to go into the desktop with startx but it looked like the graphics driver was not installed?

John

On 2013-01-07 19:26, MW0DBB wrote:
>
> I installed kde which is what I normally go for!
>
> When I did su, I was able to go into the desktop with startx but it
> looked like the graphics driver was not installed?

That sentence is not clear to me.

Do yo login in text mode as user, then type “su”, then “startx”?

Two errors. One, do not use “su”, use “su -”.
Two, instead login as root directly while in text mode.

Or, use startx as user by changing what is documented in the permissions
file.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))

I have to use su to be able to use startx. Nothing seems to work otherwise. How can I get it to go directly into desktop instead of text mode?

John

If possible get a log for us. When you get to the prompt instead of using startx, login as root. Then run this command:

cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | tail

Also you can try booting into failsafe mode. There should be an ‘advanced options’ at the grub screen.

On 2013-01-07 21:46, MW0DBB wrote:
>
> I have to use su to be able to use startx.

As I said, su will not work correctly, you have to add a dash. Or login
directly as root in text mode. Or change the “/etc/permissions.local”
file, see comments inside.

> Nothing seems to work
> otherwise. How can I get it to go directly into desktop instead of text
> mode?

Well, if startx works, then see the logs. If it doesn’t, startx will say
why, probably.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))

John-PC:~ # cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | tail
15.432] (II) evdev: MCE IR Keyboard/Mouse (mceusb): initialized for relative axes.
15.432] () MCE IR Keyboard/Mouse (mceusb): (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
15.432] (
) MCE IR Keyboard/Mouse (mceusb): (accel) acceleration profile 0
15.432] () MCE IR Keyboard/Mouse (mceusb): (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000
15.432] (
) MCE IR Keyboard/Mouse (mceusb): (accel) acceleration threshold: 4
15.433] (II) config/udev: Adding input device MCE IR Keyboard/Mouse (mceusb) (/dev/input/mouse1)
15.433] (**) MCE IR Keyboard/Mouse (mceusb): Applying InputClass “LocalKeyboard”
15.433] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
15.433] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
213.664] (II) AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch
John-PC:~ #

/etc/permissions.local

This file is used by SuSEconfig and chkstat to check or set the modes

and ownerships of files and directories in the installation.

In particular, this file will not be touched during an upgrade of the

installation. It is designed to be a placeholder for local

additions by the administrator of the system to reflect filemodes

of locally installed packages or to override file permissions as

shipped with the distribution.

Format:

<file> <owner>:<group> <permission>

Please see the file /etc/permissions for general usage hints of the

/etc/permissions* files.

Please remember that logfiles might be modified by the logfile

rotation facilities (e.g. logrotate) so settings entered here might

be overridden. Also devices files (/dev/*) are not static but

managed via udev so this file can’t be used to modify device

permissions either.

suexec is only secure if the document root doesn’t contain files

writeable by wwwrun. Make sure you have a safe server setup

before setting the setuid bit! See also

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=263789

suEXEC Support - Apache HTTP Server

#/usr/sbin/suexec2 root:root 4755

setuid bit on Xorg is only needed if no display manager, ie startx

is used. Beware of CVE-2010-2240.

#/usr/bin/Xorg root:root 4711

Thats what I’m getting…I’m at present in Linux.

John

On 2013-01-07 22:36, MW0DBB wrote:
>
> John-PC:~ # cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | tail

Please use code tags. Advanced editor, ‘#’ button.
View this
thread for instructions

>
> /etc/permissions.local

Don’t copy it, edit it. There is something it says you have to do to use
startx as user.

I have said it three times already…


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))