On 2013-10-29 18:55, vazhavandan wrote:
> switching from font size 12 to 8 didnot help 
>
> http://susepaste.org/view/raw/60423493
Did you try at that point to pull from a corner with the mouse to make
the terminal a bit bigger?
Which terminal type are you using? it is not xterm.
Is that 12.3? I tried on an xterm, and there is a size when the menu
disappears.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2013-10-29 18:55, vazhavandan wrote:
>
>> switching from font size 12 to 8 didnot help
>>
>> http://susepaste.org/view/raw/60423493
>
> Did you try at that point to pull from a corner with the mouse to make
> the terminal a bit bigger?
I did notice that enlarging the terminal helps to show the menu. But the
point is unlike other yast installers(qt or gtk) it(ncurses) doesn’t
resize and display the entire tool.
>
> Which terminal type are you using? it is not xterm.
That is gnome terminal.
>
> Is that 12.3? I tried on an xterm, and there is a size when the menu
> disappears.
>
>
GNOME 3.6.2
openSUSE Release 12.3 (Dartmouth) 64-bit
Kernel Linux 3.7.10-1.16-desktop
On 2013-10-29 19:53, vazhavandan wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> Did you try at that point to pull from a corner with the mouse to make
>> the terminal a bit bigger?
> I did notice that enlarging the terminal helps to show the menu. But the
> point is unlike other yast installers(qt or gtk) it(ncurses) doesn’t
> resize and display the entire tool.
It does not have side bars, so you can not move it up/down to see it
all. When the terminal is too small, it sacrifices elements. It is
designed for the raw text mode terminals, an xterm is kind of an addition.
>> Which terminal type are you using? it is not xterm.
>
> That is gnome terminal.
Ah, ok.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
To the op,
Welcome and have a lot of fun
With the semi highjack post (just kidding)
with yast (ncurses),
my take on this is very useful to run when gui is borked.
It would be entirely rude not to hijack my posts! 
Honest, it’s all good, saved me keep having to reply (I kinda suck at foruming, IRcing I totally win on all levels. Foruming… idk.
Nice to see such an … alive… community. Tends to be a good sign. I’ve not personally found a reason yet to use YaST, but I’m a bit put off by its appearance, lack o’ speed, etc.
As long as I can update with zypper in the terminal im ok 
you should be fine as long as you stick to “zypper up” and “zypper patch”,unless you are using Tumbleweed when you probably need a “zypper dup”
That figures if you use zypper exclusively for software management. That leads me to think that the lack of speed you refer to would be on opening the Software Management and Online Update tools within YaST. Maybe that delay has to do with initializing and refreshing the enabled repos. If/when you do a “zypper dup” for dist-upgrade, you will also see a similar delay as it refreshes the repos and resolves what package updates are available.
Maybe you referred to some other speed issue?
On 2013-10-31, ikeydoherty <ikeydoherty@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
> Nice to see such an … alive… community. Tends to be a good sign. I’ve
> not personally found a reason yet to use YaST, but I’m a bit put off by
> its appearance, lack o’ speed, etc.
> As long as I can update with zypper in the terminal im ok
It’s interesting to see the mixed feelings Linux users have about YaST. Of course there’s no reason to use it if you
prefer to edit configuration files manually or invoke changes from command line. The software manager within YaST
however does have software database package search facility which can be useful. If you are put off by it’s GUI
appearance, you can still run yast from command line within a virtual console (using its ncurses interface).
Since the appearance of YaST has changed little over the last ten years, I do agree it does look a little outdated. YaST
can be very convenient however for quick configuration of administration tools (such as firewall/SSHD). Consequently,
those used to openSUSE find the absence of YaST from other distributions puts them at a considerable disadvantage. On
the other hand, openSUSE newcomers used to other distributions often look at YaST with some scepticism because (no
offence meant, and this probably doesn’t apply to you anyway) they have not taken the time and effort to see what they
have been missing.
Well not being afraid to suggest other distros I say another good option is SolydXK, a newer distro based on dfebian testing.
I have been using it as my primary for the last few months and it rivals openSUSE on the stability market.
Though I will be using openSUSE 13.1 as a good backup distro, nothing wrong with options.
On 2013-10-31 11:57, flymail wrote:
> Since the appearance of YaST has changed little over the last ten years, I do agree it does look a little outdated. YaST
> can be very convenient however for quick configuration of administration tools (such as firewall/SSHD). Consequently,
> those used to openSUSE find the absence of YaST from other distributions puts them at a considerable disadvantage. On
> the other hand, openSUSE newcomers used to other distributions often look at YaST with some scepticism because (no
> offence meant, and this probably doesn’t apply to you anyway) they have not taken the time and effort to see what they
> have been missing.
I know people that specifically dislike openSUSE because they think that
they can not do things their way. They do not know YaST (they only met
“him”), and have not found out that they can do things /their/ way if
they just stop fighting YaST.
Me, I find it useful to be able to setup many things easily using YaST,
and later adapt those things to my liking when/if I want.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)
I like the lead developer over there, seems a nice guy Unfortunately I have zero interest in Debian based distributions anymore, and haven’t for some time.
I’m still happily using openSUSE here and absolutely loving it Still feeling my way around, but I’m hopeful that I can find an area of openSUSE to contribute to