html in nntp?

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#1

Hi,

I have just seen an html nntp message HERE. I’m utterly surprised. I
noticed it because I saw a word in red color!

It was posted originally via NNTP, not HTTP, I think.


> From: Ken Schneider <...>
> Newsgroups: opensuse.org.help.applications
> Subject: Re: KDE - Apper vs. YaST
> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 18:49:24 GMT

....
> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> In-Reply-To: <consused.5s7dhb@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org>
> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>  boundary="------------030806060201080707070909"
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 137.65.224.2
> X-Trace: kozak.provo.novell.com 1363286964 137.65.224.2 (Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:49:24 MDT)
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:49:24 MDT
> Xref: minas-tirith.valinor opensuse.org.help.applications:30716

The message contains both a plain text part and an html part:


Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

and


Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))

#2

On 2013-03-14 23:58, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have just seen an html nntp message HERE. I’m utterly surprised. I
> noticed it because I saw a word in red color!
>
> It was posted originally via NNTP, not HTTP, I think.
>

Demonstration: this post I force to have an html part:

Red - blue - yellow - big

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Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))

#3

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 22:58:20 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> I have just seen an html nntp message HERE. I’m utterly surprised. I
> noticed it because I saw a word in red color!
>
> It was posted originally via NNTP, not HTTP, I think.

Yep, some newsreaders (Outlook Express most notably, but I think
Thunderbird does as well) will compose as multipart-MIME and post both
plaintext and HTML.

Jim

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#4

Thunderbird showed colors and stuff too, yes.

Good luck.

#5

Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 22:58:20 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> I have just seen an html nntp message HERE. I’m utterly surprised. I
>> noticed it because I saw a word in red color!
>>
>> It was posted originally via NNTP, not HTTP, I think.
>
> Yep, some newsreaders (Outlook Express most notably, but I think
> Thunderbird does as well) will compose as multipart-MIME and post both
> plaintext and HTML.

Thunderbird has a configuration setting, so anybody sending HTML has
misconfigured it, AFAIK.

My Thunderbird doesn’t show the HTML anyway :stuck_out_tongue: That’s another config
setting!

#6

On 2013-03-15 04:12, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 22:58:20 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> I have just seen an html nntp message HERE. I’m utterly surprised. I
>> noticed it because I saw a word in red color!
>>
>> It was posted originally via NNTP, not HTTP, I think.
>
> Yep, some newsreaders (Outlook Express most notably, but I think
> Thunderbird does as well) will compose as multipart-MIME and post both
> plaintext and HTML.

Yes, but is this “legal” NNTP?

And of course, all those extra features are not carried over to the web
side and viceversa. I looked.

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Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

#7

On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:13:14 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> Yes, but is this “legal” NNTP?

Yes, the RFCs to my knowledge don’t specify limitations in the body
content.

> And of course, all those extra features are not carried over to the web
> side and viceversa. I looked.

Yes, they’re not carried over. IIRC, the gateway strips them.

Jim

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openSUSE Forums Administrator
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#8

On 03/15/2013 04:12 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> but I think Thunderbird does as well

i do not know if that is correct or not, but (lucky me) mine seems to
either be incapable of such, or maybe the candy is disabled by
default…thankfully.

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dd

#9

On 03/15/2013 11:38 AM, dd wrote:
> On 03/15/2013 04:12 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> but I think Thunderbird does as well
>
> i do not know if that is correct or not

Um… see my response.

#10

On 03/15/2013 06:42 PM, ab wrote:
> Um… see my response.

then, the colorful whimsy of html is turned off in my TB…yipee!

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dd