HP Deskjet 4180 invisible?

I just installed SUSE 11.1, got most of everything working the way I want. Then tested out my printer. CUPS installed and the scanner part works, however the printer itself does not work. It shows in the scanner GUI but nothing happens if I try to print something. I figure it’s a driver that’s missing.

Anyone know where I might find it? This same printer works fine on Kubuntu 7.1 on my PC. Use GSane on my other machine. Will it work with this. I have the KDE desktop.

do you have the programme hplip installed? We do not have HP printers, but I see hplip regularly referred to;

if you are logged in as a user to these OPenSuse forums; you can search on hplip and HP printers; I am suggesting that to background hplip for you but hopefully just installing and running is fine;

if you want to check if the system sees your printer you could try in a terminal;

lsusb

Ok I did that, and this was the result. Unfortunately I have no idea what it means.

ken@linux-i7x0:~> lsusb
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 03f0:7e04 Hewlett-Packard Deskjet F4100 Printer series
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 006 Device 003: ID 0c0b:b311 Dura Micro, Inc. (Acomdata)
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 045e:00e1 Microsoft Corp. Wireless Laser Mouse 6000 Reciever
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
ken@linux-i7x0:~>

I do see the printer listed though

Ok, I just tried to do sudo install hlip and got this reply. Sounds like some kind of smart assed remark. When I type something into a terminal, I have always assumed it is simply accessing repositories. Not actually asking someone to do something. So could someone please explain this strange reply? I obviously tried to do something I wasn’t permitted. Hence, with great humility, comes great learning. :shame:

We trust you have received the usual lecture from the local System
Administrator. It usually boils down to these three things:

#1) Respect the privacy of others.
#2) Think before you type.
#3) With great power comes great responsibility.

Ok here I go again. I looked up HPLIP on the HP site, and it said you should install it to and had all the commands necessary to install it. However this was for SUSE 11.0 so I aborted it and looked further. Then I came across Linux forum posts that warned not to install this. So what gives? I have had this printer working both with Ubuntu and Kubuntu 7.1 for over a year with no problems whatsoever. Now all of a sudden it does not work. I have CUPS installed, so that is not the issue. Can someone please give me some CURRENT information? Most of the linux posts are over two years old. Originally when I purchased this thing the proper drivers were not available. But then with updates they were. So this should also work in SUSE, no?:sarcastic:

Kenny1948 wrote:
> Ok, I just tried to do sudo install hlip and got this reply. Sounds like
> some kind of smart assed remark. When I type something into a terminal,
> I have always assumed it is simply accessing repositories. Not actually
> asking someone to do something. So could someone please explain this
> strange reply? I obviously tried to do something I wasn’t permitted.
> Hence, with great humility, comes great learning. :shame:
>
> We trust you have received the usual lecture from the local System
> Administrator. It usually boils down to these three things:
>
> #1) Respect the privacy of others.
> #2) Think before you type.
> #3) With great power comes great responsibility.

This response is the one you get with the first usage of “sudo”. The
reason for it is that sudo can do as much harm as being logged in as
root. You could start deleting all the files in your root directory.
It wouldn’t get them all before it crashed, but I can assure you that
it wouldn’t boot ever again. That is the reason for those rules. If
your version of Linux were serving a large number of users, only a few
of them would be allowed sudo privilege.

When you type at a terminal, you are telling your command line
interpreter what commands to issue, and what parameters to use. Most
have absolutely nothing to do with a repository.

Larry

Thanks for the reply. Have been using Sudo in Ubuntu for almost three years. Had never had that happen before.

They way it was explained to me SUDO meant that you had ROOT privileges which I assumed meant that it was you the the actual owner of the machine, therefore you were “Root”. I guess I have a lot to learn.:shame:

I have been a Linux user for almost three years now. I am a newbie only on this forum.

Now if I can just get my damned printer to work with SUSE before I dump it. I have everything else working but if my printer does not, I might just as well start looking for another distrib that has the right drivers.

Hi Kenny;

hplip should be in what is called the main repository;

so if you go to YaST; it will ask for your substitute user (su) also called root password;

go to software management;

type hplip into the “filter” box; click on the available button; it should find hplip; (if you have the repositories enabled)

from that click install, and YaST should do it all for you; then YaST has a memory what is installed etc;

let us know if that is helpful;

(you can google on the similarities and differences between sudo and su etc etc when you have some time …)

Thanks again!:wink:
I installed it with Yast however I still cannot for some reason get my damned printer to work. I will have to keep trying. I honestly don’t understand why it shows in the Skanlite application, but not the printer. ( under applications ) On Kubuntu both show, one under the other. I will have to check my PC and see just what is installed there. Maybe it can be installed on SUSE also. Will check tomorrow. Thanks for all your help.
Ken

Kenny1948 wrote:

>
> pdc_2;1933698 Wrote:
>> Hi Kenny;
>>
>> hplip should be in what is called the main repository;
>>
>> so if you go to YaST; it will ask for your substitute user (su) also
>> called root password;
>>
>> go to software management;
>>
>> type hplip into the “filter” box; click on the available button; it
>> should find hplip; (if you have the repositories enabled)
>>
>> from that click install, and YaST should do it all for you; then YaST
>> has a memory what is installed etc;
>>
>> let us know if that is helpful;
>>
>> (-you can google on the similarities and differences between sudo and
>> su etc etc when you have some time- …)
>
> Thanks again!:wink:
> I installed it with Yast however I still cannot for some reason get my
> damned printer to work. I will have to keep trying. I honestly don’t
> understand why it shows in the Skanlite application, but not the
> printer. ( under applications ) On Kubuntu both show, one under the
> other. I will have to check my PC and see just what is installed there.
> Maybe it can be installed on SUSE also. Will check tomorrow. Thanks for
> all your help.
> Ken

Sounds like something screwy is going on here! I have an HP Deskjet F4135
that has been working like gangbusters for months under 11.0 and 11.1
x86_64. Today, I suddenly started to get error messages from HP Device
Manager and when I closed it to re-start it I got “No HP all-in-one device
found (those devices require a special setup)” message. No HP Device
Manager.

As far as I know, I did nothing to change the software before this started
or I would suspect I had updated something that broke it. I uninstalled
and re-installed the existing hplib* packages and reinstalled (one at a
time with an uninstall in between). No go. The Yast->hardware->printer
apps still find and install the HP F4100-series printer drivers which test
OK. Yast->hardware->scanners also finds and installs the hpaio driver
after finding the scanner and the scanner works.

It sure bugs me when something just quits on me! I am seeing the same
initial problem on the other systems here as well with 2 different printers
(same model). One is running 11.1 32-bit, the other is running 11.0
32-bit. Try the Yast->hardware->printer function and see it it finds your
printer. It should see it as an F4100-series printer and work!


Will Honea

Forgot one thing. When I install the printer with Yast it finds the printer
OK but when I use the test function the printout hangs in the queue until I
power the printer down and back up - like something was confusing the
darned thing. Also, Mine is USB connected, but I think that is typical for
the F4100 series.


Will Honea

:shame:
Boy, do I feel stupid.

Today I tinkered with my Desktop PC to see what was running my printer. It was HPLIP. I then dug further into “Printers” in my system settings.

Since I was able to find all this information. I figured somehow it should be there also on my Notebook, on SUSE.

What I discovered was that there are a lot more sliding menus, on SUSE than I realized. I found my printer, and realized it had never been configured! Did that, and now it is working.
I will have to explore those menus a little more and see what else I have missed. Just not used to the GUI it is much different than the one in KUBUNTU!

Thanks to everyone for your help and patience!:slight_smile: