howto let kmail open kdewallet without prompting for password

I use kdewallet to store my kmail passwords of my mail account. The problem is, when pc reboots and I start kmail: it requests to open the kdewallet and prompts for the kde-wallet password. How can I disable this so that kmail opens the wallet without prompting the password.

I mean: what use is it to store my mail password if I have to typ in another password to load the mail password. This doesn’t make any sense…

On another pc I use kdewallet to store WIFI password for knetworkmanager and here this works fine. Knetworkmanager never prompts for the kdewallet password…

Suskewiet, I may not be able to tell you how to automate the opening of a wallet, but perhaps I can help you understand why it does make sense to require kwallet to seek your authorization at least once per session:
If you do what every security-conscious user should do, namely use different passwords for different things then you will be spared the trouble of having to memorize and enter each of your several passwords whenever a password entry mask requires one. Entering your kwallet password once per session will be sufficient and kwallet will take care of all the rest. Quite convenient, I say. I have set up my kmail to manage three different mail accounts - each with a different password. Plus knetworkmanager with a passphrase for wlan access. Without kwallet I would have to enter the wlan passphrase and then each of the three mail passwords (or store them within knetworkmanager and kmail, which I consider unsafe).
Note that you can set kwallet to stay open until you log out. Then you need enter its password only once per session. A small inconvenience but so much more secure!
Cheers
Mike

On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:26:03 +0530, mhenatsch
<mhenatsch@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

>
> suskewiet;2416488 Wrote:
>> I use kdewallet to store my kmail passwords of my mail account. The
>> problem is, when pc reboots and I start kmail: it requests to open the
>> kdewallet and prompts for the kde-wallet password. How can I disable
>> this so that kmail opens the wallet without prompting the password.
>>
>> I mean: what use is it to store my mail password if I have to typ in
>> another password to load the mail password. This doesn’t make any
>> sense…
>>
>> On another pc I use kdewallet to store WIFI password for
>> knetworkmanager and here this works fine. Knetworkmanager never prompts
>> for the kdewallet password…
>
> Suskewiet, I may not be able to tell you how to automate the opening of
> a wallet, but perhaps I can help you understand why it does make sense
> to require kwallet to seek your authorization at least once per
> session:
> If you do what every security-conscious user should do, namely use
> different passwords for different things then you will be spared the
> trouble of having to memorize and enter each of your several passwords
> whenever a password entry mask requires one. Entering your kwallet
> password once per session will be sufficient and kwallet will take care
> of all the rest. Quite convenient, I say. I have set up my kmail to
> manage three different mail accounts - each with a different password.
> Plus knetworkmanager with a passphrase for wlan access. Without kwallet
> I would have to enter the wlan passphrase and then each of the three
> mail passwords (or store them within knetworkmanager and kmail, which I
> consider unsafe).
> Note that you can set kwallet to stay open until you log out. Then you
> need enter its password only once per session. A small inconvenience but
> so much more secure!
> Cheers
> Mike
>
>

that’s true, but in a controlled situation like one’s home can be, it may
make sense not to assign a password to kwallet. then it opens without
prompting for one – for anybody who uses that user account.


phani.

mhenatsch wrote:

> Note that you can set kwallet to stay open until you log out. Then you
> need enter its password only once per session. A small inconvenience but
> so much more secure!

Yes, that’s how it used to work for me. Just now, with Kontact open, I’ve
had to type the darned password in half-a-dozen times, five for every time
I’ve changed an account configuration, and once more for accessing a news-
server. Seems to be working almost as well as how TB’s master password
doesn’t.


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