Hi
I uninstall apper so it doesn’t suggest to me to upgrade packages. But every now and then ‘zypper dup’ reinstalls it, and I have to uninstall it again.
I don’t mind having it installed if only it would be quiet. Is there a config file where apper can be told to not-run? Or should I uninstall package-kit too?
“Taboo”/lock it.
I don’t mind having it installed if only it would be quiet. Is there a config file where apper can be told to not-run?
“Configure Desktop” (KDE’s Systemsettings)->Startup and Shutdown->Service Management. Disable “Apper monitor” there.
Or should I uninstall package-kit too?
Won’t help, I suppose.
If apper gets reinstalled, it would pull in PackageKit as well, because it requires it.
It’s probably a good idea to also open tray settings, and uncheck the box for “Software Updater”. Otherwise it will do some of the same things that Apper does.
That “Software Updater” is in fact Apper (just a different frontend/GUI).
But it shouldn’t do anything unless you click on it, when “Apper Monitor” is disabled.
It is still a good idea to remove it, yes.
But uninstalling apper will remove it anyway.
you can use zypper to lock apper after you have uninstall it.
zypper al apper
or disable apper on system settings if you want to keep it ( that’s what i did) and disable the executable bit in packagekit
chmod -x /usr/lib/packagekitd
and configure the permission in /etc/permissions.local which is not created by default. You can even use inotifywait(1) but that is overkill imo 
This should not be necessary either.
packagekitd won’t start by itself…
Thanks all for various advices. I took the easy way out and turned it off in KDE setup → Startup/Shutdown – Service Manager → UnTick Apper Monitor
I’ll know in 24 hrs if anything extra is beneficial, I’ll let you know iff
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 23:06:01 GMT
swerdna <swerdna@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
> I uninstall apper so it doesn’t suggest to me to upgrade packages. But
> every now and then ‘zypper dup’ reinstalls it, and I have to uninstall
> it again.
Yes, this also happened during the run-up to 13.1 but the practice was
dropped by the final release, not sure why it happens during beta and
why it wasn’t dropped in 13.2 final release.
I use YaST to delete PackageKit modules apart from the libs which are
apparently now also used elsewhere. This prompts you to remove apper.
Once deleted, I go back and “taboo” a couple of the items that stops
re-installation of any of the apps.
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Graham Davis [Retired Fortran programmer - now a mere computer user]
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Because upto 13.1 libzypp (the library YaST and zypper use) had the so-called “SoftLocks” feature.
If you uninstalled a package it got added to the SoftLocks file and never was installed again automatically. I.e. uninstalling a package told YaST/zypper that it is “unwanted”.
But this caused other problems and got removed.
Another way to get rid of apper would be to disable the installation of recommended packages for already installed packages, via enabling “Ignore recommended packages for already installed packages” in YaST’s “Options” menu, or setting “installRecommends = no” in /etc/zypp/zypper.conf (or using the --no-recommends option).