Hi, I have a concrete need to ask such a general question - my mouse won’t move properly. It stops from time to time. Sometimes I can hardly drag it. The problem have different causes, but the network appears as one of it. The mouse suddenly start to move properly if I pull out the network cabel from my computer !
Above you see a KDE desktop of a newly installed LEAP 15.1 with tree programms: a terminal, wireshark and a closed chromium browser. Chromium disappeared from the screen, but obviously not fully from the memory. It is still asking a DNS for a google clients. It askes the address of shoes company, as I possibly would like to buy new shoes, it is loading interesting data for the case if I’d like to make my member longer, addresses of some newspapers, I read a year ago, prepars itself to offer me car tires, even it a car has been sold.
All this is eating all ressources. The mouse connected with a strong workstation board has no breath. Some years ago I knew the Internet as a distributet system. No one knew if I A connected with B. Today that whole topology has changed. All the internet traffic goes through google-statistics, than doubleclick, than some other proprietary servers.
Finally I didn’t identify the concrete site on which the browser is waiting, which makes my mouse to move slowly or not to move at all. They are all of them. Libraries for standard programs are written this way first to ask the Internet i.e. to touch google statistics.
I have not run into that – perhaps because I use “firefox” with the “noscript” extension which reduces the risk.
My wife had a similar problem on Windows. She could shutdown the browser, but as soon as it started up it would resume looping. Rebooting the computer did the same. So we disconnected the network cable and rebooted. Then we configured the browser to always start with an empty page instead of resuming. Then we plugged the network back in an all was good. (I think that was with Microsoft’s “Edge” browser).
Yes, noscript has helped a little. It gives the opportunity to see what sites demand scripting.
The main problem seems to be with doublecklick . I cannot move the mouse before doublecklick is informed about it. The second is google-analytics.
Unfortunately to login to this forum I am redirected to microfocus.com, which on the other site uses scripts calling google-analytics. In the consequence I cannot answere to your advice without haveing temporarity problems to move a mouse !
The second, less heavy objection against noscript is that it advices to check which sites can be trusted on it’s own proposing several site checking services like:
You see now, that one cannot follow this advice without releasing temporarily the “noscript” rule and hitting problems. As an example the first one “Safe Browsing Diagnostic” causes my mouse to slutter !
Well, possibly one could forbid this google and ads special functionalty in the suse-firewall simply closing access to doubleclick etc.
Another problem, which I don’t understand is that my LEAP 15.1 SUSElinux with KDE oxygen desktop is still calling some doublecklics even after the brower is completely closed ! I try to guess which software instance is dong this. Obviously this must be some desktop buffers, which consider it as optimal to call some sites, which I’d likt to exclude. Could you help me to indentify this software ?
I have google analytics blocked in NoScript. The Microfocus login page has some problems and they may be the result of that. But I live with it, the credentials are filled in by FF password manager (I assume you can also type them yourself) and by using the Tab and Return keys I can login. Using the forums, I still see google-analytics as blocked, but the forums works as I expect them to work.
Well I set with noscript opensuse.org as trusted and google-analytics as untrusted and we can communicate here.
Let me refere yet to your sentence
But I live with it
. I might be a little elder than you and the mayority of Internet users. I remember the first browser mosaic written by phisicists in CERN, where www was invented. We spoke about open interface standards, etc. From this perspective, what has happened now is a horror scenario. Not only some companies offer you products, you don’t want, but to organize this they use the power of your own computer to track you and spy without viruses, just by “official extended functionalities” which move their computing load on you.
Let me express the conviction, I cannot live with it normaly. And I advice others to consider such situation as not normal too. Linux must protect us from these “extended functionalities”, otherwise one day somebody will sell us the permition to move a mouse like the permition to push a keybord button by a comfortable contract with you bank, which you cannot terminate without hitting your keyboard button.
Without furter information I can not confirm or deny this.
In general I am with you. That is one of the main reasons that I use Linix to begin with and things like NoScript, Adblock Plus and an ample amount of cookie management.
While we speak here I have only one firefox instance with noscript switched on globally with the exception of forums.opensuse.org, where scripts are allowed. Another firefox tabs are twitter.com, translate.google.com - in both scripts are not allowed and some very simple static html page written by myself without external tools.
And what my computer is doing at the same time ? - It is sending some data to amazon.com !
I did contact amazon.com some two years ago, it was another hardware, but the same google login as i suppose. I never used twitter two years ago or earlier.
Some aplication data are passed to IP=172.217.18.110 (google) too.
Recently NoScript has been reporting lots of cross site connection attempts I just keep blocking them. The URLs reported are truly ugly with hundreds of seeming random characters. No thank you stupid advertisers
Are we conscious of the fact, that milions of Internet users, which never heard about noscript add-on cannot work with the Internet in a normal way and they could say: well, this must be so ?
Even with no-script switched on my firefox initially does not block inquires to DNS, like the one: 192.168.1.2 194.204.159.1 DNS 84 Standard query 0x6ab7 A www.google-analytics.com Possibly a part of a problem stem not from google-analytics itself, but from DNA overloaded with such requests ? How could I generally exclude this particular query from DNS in my computer ?
into the firewall, /etc/sysconfig/SuSEfirewall2 and the situation seems to be much better, but:
1. If I cannot move the mouse I must see it somehow at least in the aplet diagrams in the panel or in any other way like ps -alx. I don't see it. I suppose the system is not overloaded, but the mouse is waiting on some network events somewhere in the kernel ! How could I investigate it better ? I am still not sure if this is a google problem !
2. If there are DNS requests, which wait, isnt' it better to use own bind, which could generally omit the requests regarding some sites ? Is there another way to make the DNS resolver in the kernel to omit them ?
Still the general question regarding the bahaviour of such companies might be a political one, but here I'd like to do everything technically possible to resolve this private case.
While I still have no idea about your problem (and I guess many here have no mouse problems like you have), I wonder why you still use SuSEFirewall2. Already some version before 151. openSUSE switched to firewalld.
My mouse problem is possibly the same as the one descibed in https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=254887 . The USB port is switched off and on during the mouse moves. Yet I don’t see these disconnects in my /var/log/messages.
I changed /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend from 2 to -1, as they suggested, but it doesn’t help. This file is not the proper way to change this parameter in opensuse LEAP 15.1 - it’ll be returned to 2 during the boot process. Anybody knows how to change it ?
Oh, I didn’t notice. Is firewalld the one found at the botom in yast2 window ? I could open and close different ports in it, but I did not succede to reject IP’s there.
Is firewalld easy to use it without NetowrkManager ? I use rather Wicked as I’d like to have static IP’s in my LAN.
Google and its companies is an affair that starts in Chrome parameters. Removing and replacing their search engine by duckduckgo is a must. Disconnect extension is a valuable solution.
My new ASUS wokstation board WS X390 PROS has the newest BIOS. I think it’s time to start with another Linux, like KNOPIX and check if the problem remains.