With Windows you just need to have some experience along with A+, Network+, and MCSA to start making real money.
But what if you want to start supporting SUSE.
How do you get the credentials needed to work for a company a become a consultant? Is there a certification path of some type?
I’m an IT professional that likes SUSE but can see how I could gain to skills needed to be successfully employee by supporting it. I’ve been Linux+ certified for over a year and enjoy using it at.
On Fri, 08 May 2009 14:56:01 +0000, vwbond wrote:
> With Windows you just need to have some experience along with A+,
> Network+, and MCSA to start making real money. But what if you want to
> start supporting SUSE.
Novell provides a number of certifications for SUSE Linux Enterprise
platforms.
See http://www.novell.com/training/certinfo for information.
Jim
hmmmm…you wanna support SUSE but you can’t find a “certification path”?
if you wanna work for Novell (the owner/seller of SUSE) try:
http://careers.novell.com/psp/css89prd/EMPLOYEE/HRMS/c/HRS_HRAM.HRS_CE.GBL
or http://www.novell.com/linux/services_support.html and scroll down
to the “Technical Training” section…
hint: i used a cutting edge technology to provide you with this
information, it is called Google…i recommend you give it a try…
–
heartless_bot
Curious, what is the natural progression of those certs? I’ve been trying to figure that out for a bit now.
On Fri, 08 May 2009 18:36:02 +0000, 69 rs ss wrote:
> Curious, what is the natural progression of those certs? I’ve been
> trying to figure that out for a bit now.
CLDA is a standalone desktop administrator exam.
For SLES, it’s:
CLA->CLP->CLE
CLA currently is optional for the SLES10 certification path, so you can
start with it or with CLP. CLA is currently automatically granted to
those who pass the CLP; many students use the CLA as a “checkpoint”
before diving into the CLP, because a hands-on exam can be a bit more
daunting.
CLA does not figure into the SLES9 path, which is just CLP->CLE. The
SLES9 certifications will probably be retained until the end of this year.
The CLP and CLE exams are practical hands-on exams. CLDP and CLA are
what we call “traditional” forms-based exams.
The other certifications listed on the page (CNA, CNE, NCA-ES, NCE-ES)
are relating to Novell’s NetWare (CNA, CNE) and OES products (NCA-ES, NCE-
ES)
The paths for SLE 11 are still being finalized so I can’t talk a lot
about them at this point.
Does that clarify the paths?
Jim
Those last few are what was getting me confused. I wasn’t sure where they fit in with SLES/D or even if they were supposed to.
The paths for SLE 11 are still being finalized so I can’t talk a lot
about them at this point.Does that clarify the paths?
Jim
All squared up for me now.
On Fri, 08 May 2009 18:56:02 +0000, 69 rs ss wrote:
> Those last few are what was getting me confused. I wasn’t sure where
> they fit in with SLES/D or even if they were supposed to.
Ah, I see - yeah, I suppose if you’re coming at the page from a Linux
background that might not be clear. I’ll talk to the cert programs
manager next week and see if we can make it clearer. 
Jim
This looks just like the thread I was looking for, but I didn’t see the answer on actually getting a Linux-related job.
Seems that in general certification is just the first step in getting a foot in the door. Most employers demand years of experience.
I’d love to see some replies from people with success stories.
BTW - how long in general does the certification process take ?
On Tue, 12 May 2009 20:46:01 +0000, stansaraczewski wrote:
> Seems that in general certification is just the first step in getting a
> foot in the door. Most employers demand years of experience.
That generally depends on the employer and the position. Usually entry-
level jobs tend to be helpdesk related and entry-level administration.
> I’d love to see some replies from people with success stories.
>
> BTW - how long in general does the certification process take ?
That depends a lot on the experience and skills of the individual
candidate. Very generally speaking, the 3 courses are about 10-15 days
long (if taken in the classroom), the exam runs about 3 hours.
Most people need more than one attempt on the exam and do some self-study
as well.
Myself, I didn’t take the classes, but having used Linux for 12 years or
so, I relied on my experience for the CLP10 exam.
Jim
I’d want to sit thru a class, but on a part time basis. My Linux skillset is like swiss cheese… full of holes although my IT experience started in 1968.
On Wed, 13 May 2009 02:26:01 +0000, stansaraczewski wrote:
> I’d want to sit thru a class, but on a part time basis. My Linux
> skillset is like swiss cheese… full of holes although my IT experience
> started in 1968.
Whether you can or not would depend largely on the partner holding the
class.
Another option for you may be the On Demand training, but I’ll have to
check and see if the full CLP path is available in it.
Jim
Ha, Ha -listen, I wanted to know what those in this forum have seen and experienced. A search isn’t going to tell me if the certifications are valuable in the real world or for landing the a position. Thanks for the information, but to hell to the “Google” remark.
vwbond,
you may also want to read this
Linux certifications: Hot or not? | Adventures in IT - InfoWorld
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 14:56 +0000, vwbond wrote:
> With Windows you just need to have some experience along with A+,
> Network+, and MCSA to start making real money.
> But what if you want to start supporting SUSE.
>
> How do you get the credentials needed to work for a company a become a
> consultant? Is there a certification path of some type?
Novell does have this…
http://www.novell.com/training/certinfo/
> I’m an IT professional that likes SUSE but can see how I could gain to
> skills needed to be successfully employee by supporting it. I’ve been
> Linux+ certified for over a year and enjoy using it at.
Technically, that Linux+ is probably enough. I’ve gotten a lot of my
reputation by helping out folks (some I don’t know) with their Linux
issues for free… then the requests come pouring in when they see you
know what you’re doing.
I’m GNU SAIR certified (even as an instructor), but that’s worthless
now. Experience still beats cert anyday… if someone comes to me with
a paper cert, rest assured, I’ll put them to the test. Favoring the
candidate that can show me their work (folks, if you can afford a mobile
phone then you an afford an Internet presence with live demos).
I recommend at least Tech Select if you want to know the whole Novell
line (not just SUSE Linux Enterprise):
http://support.novell.com/techselect/
There are higher levels and Technical/ISV partnerships available as
well.
How to get a job? Put together some complex real world scenarios using
virtualization (help if these involve Windows as well as Linux, others
are a plus). Create a way to demo that to potential clients… “wow”
them. And be willing to help them out to prove your worth (e.g.
contract to hire, etc.)
Another way (which gets you money as well), is to teach at a Community
College (teaching Linux/Unix). Your students will call you for years to
come…
When I’m looking at a contract I’ll often times prep out a virtualized
guess at their enironment so I can demo that to them and my initial
guess at a solution. Depending on the client, you might not have much
work left to do when you get the job (folks… that’s an ok thing…
those non-charged hours will turn into real paid hours down the road).