Have been getting into Linux a little more than before and I’m trying to figure out how to manually create the /boot logical partition.
From past experience with other Linux systems like LinuxMint Debian, here’s what i usually do:
Create extended partition.
Create logical partitions:
a) /boot
b) /swap
c) /
d) /home
Then install GRUB on dev/sda5 = /boot
On OpenSuse 12.2 i can’t find the way to do this. At least, with regards to the /boot part (haven’t gone any further to see if the GRUB section works in same way or not.
Have you tried using the expert partitioner? Just pick create, and do it manually instead of having the partitioner pick a disk layout for you. I am able to set up my custom lvm and mount filesystems to tmpfs this way even.
On 2012-11-07 02:26, dacomboman wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Have been getting into Linux a little more than before and I’m trying
> to figure out how to manually create the /boot logical partition.
Why do you want to create a separate /boot partition? It is not needed.
(and in the cases where you really need it, you also know how).
> On OpenSuse 12.2 i can’t find the way to do this. At least, with
> regards to the /boot part (haven’t gone any further to see if the GRUB
> section works in same way or not.
12.2 has grub version 2, which is different.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))
Until I’m fully satisfied with any Linux system, I like to default boot to Windows 7.
And… if i’m not happy with Linux i delete the partitions and use EasyBCD to rewrite the MBR.
Writing GRUB to /boot has made this possible.
Can i still do this with your method?
On 2012-11-07 11:56, dacomboman wrote:
>
> caf4926;2501790 Wrote:
>> I never bother with /boot
>> And I always use the advanced partitioner
>> And I write grub to / and MBR (sda)
>
> Until I’m fully satisfied with any Linux system, I like to default boot
> to Windows 7.
> And… if i’m not happy with Linux i delete the partitions and use
> EasyBCD to rewrite the MBR.
> Writing GRUB to /boot has made this possible.
Not needed.
> Can i still do this with your method?
In your scenario, /boot has to be a primary. For /boot to be a logical,
Grub needs to be running already.
Typically you would create a extended partition (which is a primary),
then create inside 3 logical: “/” (root), /home and swap. In bootloader
config (classical, grub 1) you tell it not to modify the MBR, not to
write generic code to the MBR (watch out), and to install grub in the
extended. The extended partition is marked bootable.
That’s how I have it (yes, W7 uses 3 primaries in mine).
I also have another root partition, logical, for testing the next version.
To revert to Windows only, you mark the appropriate Windows partition as
bootable instead of the extended (and later reclaim the partitions).
You can also use easybcd, but it is not needed.
But /boot is not required.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))
Somehow, i know what you wrote is good (and thank you for your input),
but my little head is going to have to re-read it at least 5 times before is can grasp it all.
OpenSUSE is a lot less straightforward for me.
On 2012-11-07 13:56, dacomboman wrote:
>
> Phew! Carlos!
>
> Somehow, i know what you wrote is good (and thank you for your input),
> but my little head is going to have to re-read it at least 5 times
> before is can grasp it all.
> OpenSUSE is a lot less straightforward for me.
It is easier than it looks
Just go one step at a time. My writing tends to be terse, the details
are not there. So when in doubt, just ask.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))
Yes, i have legit Windows 7 install DVD.
Still prefer Windows for stability, user-friendliness and programs that aren’t compatible with Linux yet.
EasyBCD helps me to keep cool and revert to Windows in a click.
Just now, i managed to install OpenSUSE which somehow discovered the unallocated disk space.
The GRUB was supposed to be installed within that space…
Anyhow, OpenSUSE starts up first on list (prefer Windows which WUBI allows).
On first trial, everything went well.
Then, on a second and third reboot, OpenSUSE freezes with a bunch of broken images on the screen that seem to come from Windows programs.
So, i’ve simply reset the MBR with EasyBCD and deleted partitions with OpenSUSE. :shame:
On 2012-11-07 15:46, dacomboman wrote:
> The GRUB was supposed to be installed within that space…
No, GRUB installs where it wants to. Don’t make assumptions like that.
> Anyhow, OpenSUSE starts up first on list (prefer Windows which WUBI
> allows).
Easy to change.
> On first trial, everything went well.
> Then, on a second and third reboot, OpenSUSE freezes with a bunch of
> broken images on the screen that seem to come from Windows programs.
>
> So, i’ve simply reset the MBR with EasyBCD and deleted partitions with
> OpenSUSE. :shame:
>
You have work to do. If you are not prepared to work on it, ask for help
when it doesn’t work as you expect… well, then Linux is not for you.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))
On 2012-11-07 16:16, dacomboman wrote:
>
> It’s hard to teach an ol’ dog new tricks!
I know, Linux is not easy, not at first. But later it becomes easier
than Windows. I know, I also come from the Windows side, I’m even
trained as Windows admin…
> But sure, i you guys are ready to lend a helping hand,
> I’ll put OpenSUSE back in.
> From what i’ve learned from other forums,
> as soon as a user runs into some “big” difficulty,
> then the support stops.
We don’t do that here. It may happen if the problem is too rare that
nobody knows the solution. We are volunteers, users helping other users,
so we do have our limitations - but we try quite hard
> Before i proceed to install,
> just want to know if what i did was okay?
> To let OpenSUSE install everything into the “unallocated” space etc.
Well, it booted, and let you boot Windows, so it was right, or one of
the right ways. I would prefer to make sure that grub was setup in the
way I described, though, because it is easier to maintain.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))
Okay, i’ll get working on re-installing OpenSUSE 12.2.
Sorry i didn’t post sooner.
Instant email notification is enabled but i’m not getting any notifications.
Thanks for the follow-up, hope it works out this time.
You have a guide here: “http://doc.opensuse.org/”, the startup guide.
Chapter 1.3, step 10. There are clickable sections, and the second one
is “booting”.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))
Windows 7 & 8 both create two NTFS partitions up front you will want to leave alone. The setup there you have will work, but you MUST install Grub 2 into the MBR if it does not get selected that way on its own. You can find that in the booting section before you continue on with the install.
with a bunch of broken images on the screen that seem to come from Windows programs.
