In this blog post I explain how to use “Install/Remove Software” to configure your repositories, which repositories you’ll want to add, how to configure their priority, and updating your system with the correct versions.
I may eventually transfer some of this to the opensuse website, but I never expected it to take several days just to write this one blog post so it probably won’t be soon. Still, I hope that it’s helpful to opensuse 11.4 users and I wrote the post so that it was targeted to regular users primarily but also for those looking to see how the repositories have changed with the update to 11.4.
I plan on writing a follow up later on about the future with the Tumbleweed and Bazaar projects.
thank you, good read and it sort of confirms my selected repo’s Tumbleweed is the one I am still not sure what to do with though, so looking forward to that followup
maybe you would want to consider how to work in the very good advice
given in the new user section of these fora which is designed to keep
the system stable for new folks while they learn…
i’d like to see reference in your blog to the paragraph which begins
with IMPORTANT in this link:
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DenverD
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“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11
@Xilanaz: Your welcome. I wrote it mainly because I was double checking the changes made for 11.4 repositories and realized that getting everything set up correctly might not be common sense for many new users or even those upgrading. I’m still trying to find out more information about Tumbleweed, the explanations I’ve seen so far seem very general and unspecific.
I can understand that, but I found much of those posts or links to not provide 11.4 specific information or in the case of the beginners guide, to go to a dead page. Did you read the article? It might be hard to see, but I put links at the bottom of each section that link to relevant OpenSUSE website pages. I feel that the article explains in better detail how to configure things and get to where you have a solid and stable system. Also, I never found any information about using priority in the repositories, which is explained in the blog.
If I get time to later on, I will attempt to move some of that information into the relevant opensuse wiki pages.
On 03/14/2011 09:36 PM, Supreme1012 wrote:
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> It might be hard to see,
> but I put links at the bottom of each section that link to relevant
> OpenSUSE website pages.
yep i read all the article…
maybe i missed it but i did not see where you referenced the info in
this forum about repos that is specifically designed for folks new
to openSUSE
and, believe it or not, well over half of the folks who show up here
with problems and questions are new to openSUSE folks…and many of
those are due to 20 or 30 or more active repos…
> Also, I never found any information about using priority
> in the repositories, which is explained in the blog.
oh, now i understand! you have not yet found the documentation…it
covers the priority system rather well i think, in “4.4.2. Managing
Repository Properties” here:
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DenverD
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“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11
You have an issue with my informative blog post about opensuse repositories because… I didn’t link to an opensuse forum thread or post? There are several reasons why, mainly because I don’t like linking to a forum discussion as a source, but also because that thread (and some others I saw) were outdated, not well organized, and covered varying topics. You can criticize my post if you wish, but I fail to see why you’re attacking me when you’re not arguing that any of my information is incorrect or missing relevant points. I would much rather have a discussion about that.
Which is why I wanted to write an article about opensuse repositories.
That was in fact helpful and could have been useful in writing my article. Still I believe I covered the necessary points and explanations. Those docs did not show up in any of my searches for information.
Instead of being sarcastic and rude, it might be more productive for everyone if you were more helpful instead. Advise given rudely, is usually advice that’s ignored or lost in the ensuing flame war.
The latest VLC packages. A more stable version of VLC is offered in the Packman repository. Index of /pub/vlc/SuSE/11.4/
I’m not 100% since I do not install the videolan repo and things might have changed since the last time I’ve seen it completely messing up codecs. But what’s missing in your article IMHO, is a list of the repos people should NOT install - and maybe the reason why. I guess it would be a more valuable info that a list of repos one can find anywhere.
It’s too late now but that is a good idea. I did mention in the KDE section that you shouldnt install the playground repo unless you know what you’re doing, and pretty much all of the repos in the Others section I made note that stabler versions were already included in the main repos. Did you have any suggestions for what repos would be included in a list like that? Also, I’ve had trouble with the videolan repo in the past as well.
On 03/14/2011 11:36 PM, Supreme1012 wrote:
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> but I fail to see
> why you’re attacking me when you’re not arguing that any of my
> information is incorrect or missing relevant points. I would much rather
> have a discussion about that.
why do you think i attacked?
i didn’t “argue” any info was incorrect because i didn’t see any
incorrect.
i only mentioned one missing relevant point, in my opinion.
>
> Instead of being sarcastic and rude, it might be more productive for
> everyone if you were more helpful instead. Advise given rudely, is
> usually advice that’s ignored or lost in the ensuing flame war.
i’ve read my post to you three times and fail to see where any are
attacking, sarcastic or rude…
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DenverD
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“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11
I’d have to agree. DenverD’s original post was intended to be helpful, as far as I can tell. It starts off with a suggestion for how to improve the blog post and ends with a specific suggestion for something to add, again to improve the blog post. The language used was a bit awkward (non-native English speaker?), but even the most pessimistic reader would have to work hard to interpret it as overly critical, let alone rude.
Ease up on the knee-jerk defensiveness, Supreme1012. This is the internet and your skin needs to be a bit thicker.
On 03/15/2011 03:06 PM, c0d3g33k wrote:
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> The language used was a bit awkward (non-native English speaker?)
ouch! very native…well, not “english”…(but, "north american,
between canada and mexico)…
type fast, think slow, proofread like zero and go on to the next
waiting for attention/help…
[no time wasted on frivolous capital letters and
probably-can-do-without-punctuation and other grammatic
niceties…some folks interpret that ‘style’ as curt, condescending,
rude or sarcastic–which is their problem, not mine…]
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DenverD
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“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11
The whole sarcastic “rtfm” response was what bothered me, but yeah I guess I have a thinner skin than I used to.
I’m glad there wasn’t anything incorrect, but I have to disagree about posting links to the forum threads. It would just confuse people having to read a bunch of random stuff, when all they wanted was help configuring their repositories. I like having a community discussion, but sometimes a little organization and focus can make things more useful and understandable.
Thank you everyone for your feedback. I look forward to writing more things about linux and opensuse in the future.
On 03/15/2011 08:36 PM, Supreme1012 wrote:
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> “rtfm”
i didn’t say that, even if you read what i said to mean that, it is
not what i wrote, and not i meant…
ask around, i’m not bashful at saying how i feel or what i think…
as a matter of fact, i do think your blog could be bettered if you
were to not confine your reading to the WIKI…despite what other
distros might have in the way of a wiki, you may not know that ours
has been in a state of flux since october or november 2009 during an
‘upgrade’ and in MY humble opinion it is NOT the authoritative tome it should be…for certain it can’t possibly be considered instructive
or useful for openSUSE 11.4 which is now (what?) a week old?
heck, read around the forums and will see we are learning LOTS of
stuff everyday that is broken, and work arounds found every hours…
but, it is your blog and you can reference any material you wish, and
ignore any comment you wish…
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DenverD
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“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11
Your ‘style’ seems to include habits that prevent you from communicating as clearly or effectively as you could. Since that can only be corrected by you, that is your problem, IMHO. Communication is a 2-way street, and both sides have to be at their best to make it work well. But this has nothing to do with 11.4 repositories, so I’ll stop there and go back to looking for information about Tumbleweed.
On 03/15/2011 09:36 PM, please try again wrote:
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> neither bashful nor cshful.
GOOD one!! prizsh winner maybe!!
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DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD
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“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11
I find it very interesting … “Didn’t say what I meant.” … “You didn’t hear what I said.” … The words that are read and how they are interpreted depends on the mood and situation of the reader(s). Type written text lacks the proper emotion that can be placed in an oral conversation. Body movements and tone can do one heck of a lot to enhance the meaning … for -or- against. -But- when it is in writing… when it is textual… one has to be careful on the decoding. I worry about that a lot in the items that I put up on the forums. Supreme1012 seems to have put a lot of time into his research … and even though it may be in some other documentation … he has what he thinks might be better -and- to some individuals it will be.
I, at one time, taught a micro class. Had 10 students. Gave them an assignment of recording and turning in notes on what I said… every week. Do you know that I got ten (10) different versions of what I said. It was an eye opener to me. So, depending on how we were raised and our environment, we will all understand things … sometimes the same thing … differently. …
Tumbleweed is the one I am still not sure what to do with though, so looking forward to that followup