Hello everyone. This is my first post in the forums, and its the first time I’m giving OpenSuse a shot. I have been an Ubuntu user for very long, and am trying OpenSuse to gain knowledge of other Linux OSs. So, you could call me a complete newbie with the Suse way of installing and using software packages.
The issue here is that I was trying to install gparted. I added the Packman repo, and then used the terminal
sudo /sbin/yast2 -i gparted
However, that started downloading and installing packages I never asked it to. So I aborted it and fired up the Yast GUI to see what the hell it was trying to do. Turns out that there are “Recommended packages”. Here is the line from Software Manager:
(As this package is an extension to an already installed package, it is recommended it be installed.)
Now, how exactly did these packages add themselves up to the list of to-be-installed packages? And, how do I turn off the installation of these recommended packages. All I need is to install gparted, nothing more.I won’t proceed further with this, till I sort this issue out, or I’ll end up installing MBs of unwanted packages.
It is often a matter of dependency that drags other stuff in, but not always. So it might be possible to deselect some of those. If you are doing this in Yast - Software Management select the package you want, acccept, click OK to the list of extras, but Now go to installation summary.
That will list all the packages it just added
Right click and ‘do not install’ the ones you don’t want.
It may or may not let you
Well, I had to install some proprietary codecs. I used the codecs-gnome.ymp file and what do you know… all the “recommended packages” I was talking about in the first post got downloaded and installed. Yast let me select/deselect packages from the YMP list, but never asked me anything about the recommended packages.
Hellmet. Usually the packagers of programs knows the dependencies. Software may not work properly or even may not run when dependencies are not fulfilled. And its the same with ubuntu.
Yeah, it’s exactly the same with Ubuntu. Only the App Centre often does not show them. As it shows the size of the downloaded packages, not the size the are taking once decompressed to your HDD.
Yes, I know Ubuntu downloads and installs recommended packages, too. But, two things here: I can turn them off. And two, the recommended packages I’m talking about seem to be different.
Because, if you notice in the image in the first post, those packages are not GPARTED’s recommended packages. They just exist even without it. And Yast desperately wants to install them. So whenever I try to install ANY package, Yast also tried to install these. That is what struck as weird to me. Thanks for listening.
They were probably required by a metapackage you already had installed - it happens. In Debian you’ve got ‘aptitude keep-all’, which will allow you to keep a ‘broken’ metapackage, but I don’t know that there’s a SUSE equivalent…
hellmet wrote:
> Hello everyone. This is my first post in the forums, and its the first
> time I’m giving OpenSuse a shot. I have been an Ubuntu user for very
> long, and am trying OpenSuse to gain knowledge of other Linux OSs. So,
> you could call me a complete newbie with the Suse way of installing and
> using software packages.
>
> The issue here is that I was trying to install gparted. I added the
> Packman repo, and then used the terminal
>
> Code:
> --------------------
> sudo /sbin/yast2 -i gparted
> --------------------
>
> However, that started downloading and installing packages I never asked
> it to. So I aborted it and fired up the Yast GUI to see what the hell it
> was trying to do. Turns out that there are “Recommended packages”. Here
> is the line from Software Manager:
>
> Code:
> --------------------
> (As this package is an extension to an already installed package, it is recommended it be installed.)
> --------------------
>
> And the list of Recommended Packages:
> http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/2636/namod.jpg
>
> Now, how exactly did these packages add themselves up to the list of
> to-be-installed packages? And, how do I turn off the installation of
> these recommended packages. All I need is to install gparted, nothing
> more.I won’t proceed further with this, till I sort this issue out, or
> I’ll end up installing MBs of unwanted packages.
>
> Appreciate the patience with someone new.
>
>
Don’t know if it’s the same thing, but I’ve just, today, put 11.2 on a
USB disk to try with my eeePC and YaST wanted to install a load of
language modules for Openoffice. I went down the list pressing <ctrl><->
and it hasn’t asked again (though it select another group a bit later )
BTW, apart from an apparent assumption that no display is less than
600px high in configuration “panels”, it works well
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PeeGee
Asus M2V-MX SE, AMD LE1640, openSuSE 11.0 x86-64/XP Home VBox
Asus M2NPV-VM, AMD 64X2 3800+, openSuSE 10.3 x86-64/XP Home dual boot
Asus eeePC 4G (701), Celeron M353, Mandriva 2009.1/openSUSE 11.2 on USB disk
I saw the 701 in your signature and had to jump in here. Doesn’t the EEE PC 701 4G still just rock, though? I installed 11.2 KDE on an 8 gig USB stick and my 701 loves it. Too bad about the oversized installer screens, though, they made installation a bit tricky, but otherwise all hardware is supported.
Cheers from Guelph Ontario!
Freshmeadow wrote:
> I saw the 701 in your signature and had to jump in here. Doesn’t the EEE
> PC 701 4G still just rock, though? I installed 11.2 KDE on an 8 gig USB
> stick and my 701 loves it. Too bad about the oversized installer
> screens, though, they made installation a bit tricky, but otherwise all
> hardware is supported.
> Cheers from Guelph Ontario!
>
>
Hi Guelph, 11.2 on the 701 is very good, the only “wish” I have is that
using bluetooth to get mobile broadband through my phone was as easy as
in Mandriva
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PeeGee
Asus m/b M2V-MX SE, AMD LE1640, 2GB, openSUSE 11.0 x86-64/XP Home VBox
Asus m/b M2NPV-VM, AMD 64X2 3800+, 2GB, openSUSE 10.3 x86-64/XP Home
dual boot
Acer Aspire 1350, AMD (M)XP2400+, 768MB, openSUSE 11.2/XP Home dual boot
Asus eeePC 4G (701), Celeron M353, 2GB, Mandriva 2009.1 on SSD/openSUSE
11.2 on USB disk
