How do I install OpenSUSE?

Hi everyone,
Finished distro hopping and settled on OpenSUSE.

I know this question seems as simple as that but there is a problem I’m having and I’m afraid to continue the installation without clarification. I have a 1TB drive, and 2 500GB drives. I have win 7 on the TB, and i would like to put Opensuse on one of the 500GB drives. I deliberately removed my TB partition (it was split in 2 before), i wanted opensuse to be on a drive all by itself (hence the 500GB drives). My problem lies with the options for installing the partitions.

The recommended setup opensuse gives me is to shrink my win 7…that i do not want, so i clicked create partition and selected one of the 500GB and i chose the option to use the entire disk (which is what i want). HOWEVER, when i proceed there’s a delete windows 7 partition shows up in red print at the top left while some other things are detailed, can’t remember what they are.

Why does it keep saying that if i selected the 500 GB drive, i want it to completely ignore my TB drive. I’m afraid to continue for obvious reasons so i cancelled lol. I guess i can probably disconnect my TB and install, but i’m not sure what the consequences will be when i’m dual booting if any. The whole partition thing confuses me. Advice please. thanks in advance.

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Sometimes, it is necessary to tell openSUSE to ‘rescan’ the hard drive in the partition menu area, so as to remove any proposed suggestions for deletions. But its difficult to give specific suggestions without more detailed information.

Good luck.

You should explicitly tell the installer to make the 3 partitions for Suse on the target drive.

  1. swap should be about 1-2 times memory mounted as /swap note if you have more then 1gig memory 1 gig swap is sufficient for most usage.
  2. root 20-30 gig mounted as / formated as ext4
  3. home the rest of the drive mounted as /home formated as ext4
  4. mbr should be on the first 1TB drive

Taking default options will always make the installer want to install on the first drive.

Always double check the partition scheme before proceeding.

pics, hope they’re visible enough

Last screen b4 i proceed, that i’m afraid of (i mixed tehm all up so sorry)
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gogalthorp:
You’ve got to give me specific instructions, cause I’m really at a lost to what you just said haha, forgive my ignorance. I’m clueless where linux partitions are concerned. I have 4 gb RAM btw

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Geez i mixed up the entire order of screens.
THe first pic is the final screen i see b4 i proceed, and this one is the first screen i get when i’m about to install

This does not look too bad, if I understand what you wish to do. From what I can see you stopped the initial installer attempt to carve up your /dev/sda1 (your c: drive) and instead you successfully repointed it to the /dev/sdb (one of your 500GB drives). It looks to me there you have have setup:

  • /dev/sdb1 as a 2GB swap
  • /dev/sdb2 as a 20 GB / (root)
  • /dev/sdb3 as a 443 GB /home
  • Windows C (you windows 7) will be untouched, and accessable under /windows/C
  • your other 500GB will be untouched and accessable under /windows/D

Is that not what you wanted?

Yes, i figured out what all the partitions meant and so on. I got confused cuz they said delete windows partition, i only realized afterward they meant change it from it’s NTFS state to EXT4 to install the opensuse (silly me)
Gogalthorp’s post helped me more than i originally thought.

I have an issue post isntallation though.
I have a splash screen that has
Opensuse
OPensuse (failsafe)
windows 1
windows 2
windows 3

Windows 2 is the only option that loads windows 7 successfully. wth. Weird, how do i clean that up? i’d like a screen that just asks me to choose opensuse or windows.
Also, why is the network manager applet not enabled by deault, it took me a good half an hour figuring out how to get it show there. In the live CD it’s there.
How do i atuomatically connect to my VPN at start, i already have the connect automatically box checked, but nada

Hi,

Firstly the other Windows options at the GRUB menu are because Windows
has more than one partition (I know Windows Vista had 2 partitions maybe
the other is some kind of recovery tool).

You can probably remove them from the menu by deleting the lines
relating to them from the menu.lst file (MAKE A BACKUP BEFORE YOU TRY
THIS!)

Network manager has always shown from first boot of openSUSE for me,
since I first used it at 11.0 and on different computers, so I can’t say
why it didn’t work for you by default. Still you got it working now,
that’s the main thing.

Connect automatically should accomplish what you want it to, also (if
you use GNOME) you can select the ‘available to all users’ box to
connect to the network without being logged in.

I hope some of this helps.

Regards,
Barry.

To expand:
the file to edit as root is /boot/grub/menu.lst
Open a console window
become root at the command line
su -
enter root password (note this does not echo to the screen!)
make a copy
cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.bak
then edit the file
joe /boot/grub/menu.lst
remove the boot items that don’t work. save the file

note I suggested to use a very simple text editor that should be available called joe. If you are adventurous you can use vi

Or, you can go the GUI way and open Yast then choose bootloader and you can delete them from there. Click ok and you’re good to go!

If you mess it up, you can always cancel or click Other>Propose New Configuration

Take Care,

Ian

Thank you for the help guys, sorry i can’t try your suggestion right now, but i’ve encountered a DISASTROUS problem.

So i was following the instructions to get my graphics card working (HD 4870) a lil bit into install and i lost internet, everything refused to close, so i forced a restart, now all i see is my wallpaper and my mouse pointer on start. That’s it. Several times this happened. So i figured i’ll use the DVD repair option (big mistake) as it ‘repaired’ my bootloader, and now i only have SUSE linux and SUSE failsafe in my startup. Windows is gone…and SUSE doesn’t want to load :’(

I’m not sure where to go from here now. I messed up badly it seems.

Also i far prefer the Gnome Yast to QT yast…WT is so confusing :confused: i thought it should’ve been easier lol

First of all don’t panic. Windows is still there just removed from the boot menu. Post output of

sudo fidisk -l (note that is a lower case L not a one)

QT Yast has more option so I guess it might be considered confusing. But it does more and allows finer control thus is preferred.

not panicking, i know it’s there :slight_smile:
I’m not sure i understand what you’re asking me to do…I assume that you want me to enter that in terminal? I’m having a hard time getting into any OS right now hahaha

Would a reinstall on the current partition just put everything back to how it is supposed to be?

hmm is there an edit button so i don’t double post?

Anyway, problem solved, i just reinstalled opensuse on th same partition and started from fresh. So now round 2 lol. Again, network connection applet isn’t on by default i had to go into Yast -> network settings, and put it on manual in order to get it. Strange.

ONe thing i’ve noticed, in this distro and apparently EVERY distro i tried, anytime i have my vpn up and i’m isntalling in the software package, i always seem to lsoe connection or have very strong delays. I’m beginning to wonder if it is an issue with my service, i would hate to believe this is some weird liunux bug.

Anyone wish to guide me on how to install ideal drivers for my hd 4870? In otehr distros, when i enable compiz i ahve lag minimiseing and maximising (poor or absent 2d acceleration apparently). Default open source graphics drivers in distros like say mint, ubuntu, i can rn compiz fine…however with opensuse…nothing. Compiz slaps me and tells me i have no supported hardware.

Generally you need to install the propritary driver for your card to get 3D acceleration which is need for compiz. Read
openSUSE Graphic Card Practical Theory Guide for Users
for more info

Not sure what you mean about vpn that stands for Virtual Private Network. You might want to describe how you are connecting to your ISP.

It is normal to need to set up a wireless connection but normally a wired connect does not need this. But it does depend on the specific hardware

One does not get special desktop effects in 11.2 with open source drivers on many different hardware. Thats an openSUSE-11.2 ‘as packaged’ limitation.

Note the openSUSE release cycle is longer than that of many other distributions (which go with 6 months) and hence many new distributions have newer open source graphic drivers than openSUSE. To a certain extent special desktop effects with the open source radeon/radonhd driver works better in openSUSE-11.3 than in 11.2.

However I also note that some of the recent distributions (Fedora-13 for example) have patches applied to their kernel/xorg/mesa such that they have superior special desktop effects with Fedora 13 with open source drivers, than one even see’s in openSUSE-11.3 (based on an RC1 test). I believe this is because they (Fedora) have applied patches to the kernel/xorg/mesa that have not yet made their way upstream, and hence have also not made their way downstream to openSUSE.

Thanks guys for all the assistance, i’m gonna put openSUSE to rest for a while until 11.3 comes out.

Too much hoop jumping for me right now.

One thing though, how do i revert my pc back to it’s original state without grub everything. Opensuse needs an install like Wubi imo

[QUOTE]One thing though, how do i revert my pc back to it’s original state without grub
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use your windows install disk to reinstall the windows bootloader.

Opensuse needs an install like Wubi

I disagree, A proper install is the only to use Linux in my opinion.

I know the proper install is the BEST way, i want the OPTION. That can’t possibly hurt anyone right? Ubuntu has the option.

THanks for the heads up wabout the isntall disk. I thought there was another option :confused:

wabout the isntall disk. I thought there was another option :confused:

If you want to only running windows, then windows tools are the best to use for this, there are good methods for a Linux and windows mix.