Should I log out of the gui, try to log in using my login, then switch to a VT and do this again?
Shouldn’ this be
drwx------ 4 bib bib 160 Feb 4 18:57 /run user/1000
???
The first created user ( 1000 ) always has user and group names identical.
I don’t know. I’ve had too many “pans on the fire” so to speak and haven’t done much beyond using Opensuse to do things. (I’m more of an appliance operator when it comes to the OS.)
Not on old installs upgraded through the years…
bruno@LT-B:~> ls -ld $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR
drwx------ 16 bruno users 500 feb 5 00:57 /run/user/1000
bruno@LT-B:~>
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I spotted a typo (my fault) - “bib” instead of “bob”!
UGGH!
I logged out as root, logged in with my login (didn’t work), then logged into a VT. The results were different.
ocalhost
State: running
Units: 222 loaded (incl. loaded aliases)
Jobs: 0 queued
Failed: 0 units
Since: Wed 2026-02-04 21:14:27 EST; 51s ago
systemd: 257.7+suse.19.ga0dfd5de4c
Tainted: unmerged-bin
CGroup: /user.slice/user-1000.slice/user@1000.service
└─init.scope
├─34395 /usr/lib/systemd/systemd --user --deserialize=30
└─34400 "(sd-pam)"
Maybe this could help.
Huh? You typed the output? That indeed deserves “UGGH!”. Don’t do that. You can select and copy (Ctrl+Shift+c) the output. That way we can be sure it actually is your output.
It shouldn’t matter at all if I type or not (sometimes that’s easier). FYI, a lot of times because of the issues we’re trying to fix, copy-and-paste won’t work. What I can do is redirect the output to a text file, and then when I reboot then post the output from the file.
It does matter, from experience. A instead of ' is easy to overlook. Some other method:<command_here> | susepaste`
It will return a paste.opensuse.org URL that you can post.
Back to post post #65, which you didn’t answer?
Edit: Forget that I see the verbal answer now…
Try another desktop environment perhaps? (I have no idea what is wrong with your GNOME desktop install.)
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Might be worth a try, although I really don’t want to change the ‘look and feel’ since I’ve been using Gnome since the days of XP.
I’ll see what I can do.
Maybe MATE? Cinnamon? They look more like GNOME(2).
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Anyway “GNOME from the days of XP” is dead and gone.
From the opening post. So the problem is deep-rooted and that explains why the upgrade to 16 likely did not fully complete.
Installing another desktop (xfce?) even if temporarily might be the only way forward?
Just in case you want to try:
zypper in patterns-xfce-xfce xfce4-session-wayland-experimental
True - I agree that it probably is something going back to a update some time ago - after that I could only run the bootloader with a read-only file.
I’m trying that now. I tried to install and start MATE, but although installed, it wouldn’t start.
Thanks for the suggestion!
Well, while gnome and gnome classic still won’t login, xfce works - and I am getting audio from the sound card, but although it’s a 5.1 (with speaker system), I can’t adjust the back-forward balance or check (test) the audio.
Another little issue is that I’m unable to make changes - for instance the mouse is backwards for me (I’m functionally left-handed) and screens 2 and 3 are still that hideous orange background.
Big improvement, however and I appreciate the tip. Maybe this tidbit (working under xfce) can help!!!
(I also tried to install MATE but it’s not showing as an option.)
These issues should be dealt with separately. Start a new topic for each as required. Otherwise the topic can become confusing , and this one is already too long.
At least we know that it is not a system issue, not a user issue but likely a Gnome issue.
If you are adventurous enough you may try to uninstall (almost) everything Gnome, look if you can use XFCE or try to reinstall Gnome afterwards.
If you want to try that, open a Virtual Terminal (CTRL+ALT+F4 for instance) login as root and issue the following commands.
Please be careful, don’t do the following from within a desktop session because the desktop will crash on you.
zypper remove --clean-deps patterns-gnome* gdm
zypper in greetd
reboot
After reboot you should find a new login screen (greetd) and should be able to login to XFCE.
I am not a regular XFCE user, but apparently XFCE on Wayland on Leap 16 is still new and some rough edges might still be there.
You may choose to try and reinstall Gnome (or another desktop of your choice) if you cannot stay with XFCE.
I tried XFCE and found that no matter what I did, I could not change some settings - like setting the mouse to left-handed mode, the audio worked but only in two channels, and I couldn’t set the background on my other two monitors (I run 3).
I tried Plasma, and was quite presently surprised. I was able to set up most things with it, and the audio worked out-of-box - only one or two MINOR bugs found and I’m sure some reading will help me deal with them.
I want to thank EVERYONE who chimed in with this issue. It would be nice to have my old Gnome, but what I have now works (even better than Gnome did).
Now to other things! (GRIN!!!)
I suggested XFCE as a troubleshoot step since it shares GTK with Gnome and can include some Gnome apps easily.
The troubles you found might be related to Wayland which is still somewhat experimental in XFCE.
But if you are comfortable with Plasma that’s fine and it should be somewhat lighter on resources as well.