How Can I Downgrade From Gnome 3 Desktop To Gnome 2

Hello everyone!
I have openSUSE 12.3 Gnome 3 I want to DOWNGRADE from Gnome 3 to Gnome 2 because I really LOVE Gnome 2 in EVERYTHING…
I know there is a classic Gnome 3 version but I just want to get back to Gnome 2…

As I said, I have:
openSUSE 12.3 Gnome 3 and I want to downgrade it to Gnome 2…

So, how can I do that with full steps with no step skipping…?

On 2013-09-15 18:16, AkiroSkullfield wrote:
> As I said, I have:
> openSUSE 12.3 Gnome 3 and I want to downgrade it to Gnome 2…

I don’t think that is possible.
You can use alternative projects, that emulate the behaviour of gnome2,
though.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

Thanks, I also respect your opinion but I think that Linux can be changed and made to your liking, otherwise I wouldn’t have tried it from the first place…

I also believe in 50% can be changed and 50% can’t…

On Sun 15 Sep 2013 04:16:01 PM CDT, AkiroSkullfield wrote:

Hello everyone!
I have openSUSE 12.3 Gnome 3 I want to DOWNGRADE from Gnome 3 to Gnome 2
because I really LOVE Gnome 2 in EVERYTHING…
I know there is a classic Gnome 3 version but I just want to get back to
Gnome 2…

As I said, I have:
openSUSE 12.3 Gnome 3 and I want to downgrade it to Gnome 2…

So, how can I do that with full steps with no step skipping…?

Hi
Update to GNOME 3.8.x and use the classic-shell? Else, install SLED, it
still runs GNOME 2.28…


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Or use kde or xfce

I actually have an official CD of SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 but my only problem with it is that it doesn’t accept to install Codex, I mean VLC…

It’s all here
Index of /suse/SLE_11/

or sp1
Index of /suse/sle_11_sp1/

AkiroSkullfield wrote:
>
> Hello everyone!
> I have openSUSE 12.3 Gnome 3 I want to DOWNGRADE from Gnome 3 to Gnome 2
> because I really LOVE Gnome 2 in EVERYTHING…
> I know there is a classic Gnome 3 version but I just want to get back to
> Gnome 2…
>
> As I said, I have:
> openSUSE 12.3 Gnome 3 and I want to downgrade it to Gnome 2…
>
> So, how can I do that with full steps with no step skipping…?
>
>
GNOME guys have put GNOME 2.X to the sword and say that GNOME 3.X is the
future. You cannot get GNOME 2.X desktop on newer versions of openSUSE.

If you want a desktop similar to GNOME 2.X desktop on GNOME 3.X then you
can try enabling “Fallback” mode using Activities ==> Applications ==>
Graphics ==> Forced Fallback mode “ON”

After logging out and logging in you will get a GNOME 3.X desktop that
looks and works similar to GNOME 2.X


GNOME 3.6.2
openSUSE Release 12.3 (Dartmouth) 64-bit
Kernel Linux 3.7.10-1.16-desktop

On 2013-09-15 18:46, AkiroSkullfield wrote:
>
> Thanks, I also respect your opinion but I think that Linux can be
> changed and made to your liking, otherwise I wouldn’t have tried it from
> the first place…

It is about as complex ad creating your own distribution. Go ahead >:-)


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

On 2013-09-15 18:44, malcolmlewis wrote:
> Else, install SLED, it
> still runs GNOME 2.28…

Or openSUSE 11.4, it is supported for a year more.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

Hmm, what about using Cinnamon? :slight_smile: or here.

cinnamon A Linux Desktop similar to GNOME2 based on gnome-shell technology The Cinnamon Desktop provides advanced innovative features and a traditional user experience. The underlying technology is forked from gnome-shell and the desktop layout is closer to GNOME2. The emphasis is put on making users look and feel at home and provide them an easy to use and confortable experience.

On 2013-09-15 22:06, ghostintheruins wrote:
>
> Hmm, what about using Cinnamon? :slight_smile:

I hinted at that.

The wikipedia says:

+++··········
Cinnamon is a user interface. It is a fork of GNOME Shell, initially
developed by (and for) Linux Mint. It provides a usable user environment
based on the desktop metaphor, like GNOME 2. Cinnamon uses Muffin, a
fork of the GNOME 3 window manager Mutter, as its window manager from
Cinnamon 1.2 onwards.[2]
··········+±

However, the OP specifically wants gnome 2, not derivatives of gnome 3.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

Put quite simply, it’s not going to happen for you in openSUSE, not in 12.3.
As suggested: evegreen 11.4
SLED

Otherwise IMO you are looking elsewhere: I think Centos still uses Gnome2

Nearest and nicest modern interpretation IMO: Is Mint Mate

On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 16:46:01 +0000, AkiroSkullfield wrote:

> Thanks, I also respect your opinion but I think that Linux can be
> changed and made to your liking, otherwise I wouldn’t have tried it from
> the first place…
>
> I also believe in 50% can be changed and 50% can’t…

GNOME 2 is no longer maintained - you might try Cinnamon or (as I recall)
MATE, which provide a GNOME-2 interface.

But you’ll find as distributions advance, library compatibility will
prevent GNOME2 from actually running on the distribution. As Carlos
says, maintaining a GNOME2 installation on a modern Linux distribution is
going to ultimately be as complex as maintaining a full distribution
itself.

Jim

Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
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On 2013-09-16 00:26, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 16:46:01 +0000, AkiroSkullfield wrote:
>
>> Thanks, I also respect your opinion but I think that Linux can be
>> changed and made to your liking, otherwise I wouldn’t have tried it from
>> the first place…
>>
>> I also believe in 50% can be changed and 50% can’t…
>
> GNOME 2 is no longer maintained - you might try Cinnamon or (as I recall)
> MATE, which provide a GNOME-2 interface.
>
> But you’ll find as distributions advance, library compatibility will
> prevent GNOME2 from actually running on the distribution. As Carlos
> says, maintaining a GNOME2 installation on a modern Linux distribution is
> going to ultimately be as complex as maintaining a full distribution
> itself.

Exactly.

However (thinking), KDE3 is still maintained. The official KDE group
only maintains KDE4, but a group of volunteers, with the common interest
of disliking KDE4, are maintaining KDE3; and openSUSE distributes it.

On one hand, the task becomes easier with time because they gain
expertise; on the other hand, the task is more difficult with time
because there are many more developers advancing the entire many
distributions and separate pieces, with only KDE4 in their minds, not 3.
KDE3 needs things that evolve and disappear, outside of KDE, and the
KDE3 group has to adapt somehow or remove feaures.

A group disliking gnome 3 could do the same thing with gnome 2. The
effort would be great.

However, KDE3 has many fans, and the KDE3 “pattern” is popular. I doubt
the G2 pattern would be so lucky, because many of the G2 would be fans
(like me) have departed gnome and gone elsewhere (like XFCE).


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 23:33:09 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> A group disliking gnome 3 could do the same thing with gnome 2. The
> effort would be great.

Sure, but as you and I both know, it’ll take more than just people saying
“please do this” - there need to be people who are capable of maintaining
the code involved, and so far nobody seems to have stepped up to do it.

Jim

Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C

On Sun 15 Sep 2013 11:47:47 PM CDT, Jim Henderson wrote:

On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 23:33:09 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> A group disliking gnome 3 could do the same thing with gnome 2. The
> effort would be great.

Sure, but as you and I both know, it’ll take more than just people
saying “please do this” - there need to be people who are capable of
maintaining the code involved, and so far nobody seems to have stepped
up to do it.

Jim

Hi
I value my time, hence the SLED comment, would spend far more trying
to maintain than paying for the update subscription… most stuff I
use I have built for SLE, but some it’s just not possible… I use
fluendo codecs for having multimedia compatibility, and use handbrake to
convert any files I need.


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On 2013-09-16 01:47, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 23:33:09 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> A group disliking gnome 3 could do the same thing with gnome 2. The
>> effort would be great.
>
> Sure, but as you and I both know, it’ll take more than just people saying
> “please do this” - there need to be people who are capable of maintaining
> the code involved, and so far nobody seems to have stepped up to do it.

Oh, absolutely!

This is not a question of saying “please do it”, but jumping in and
actually doing it yourself. And either having a lot of time, or getting
enough people.

The OP is interested, but as he said “how can I do that with full steps
with no step skipping” I assume he does not have the needed skills. I
don’t, either.

Or maybe I do, if I refresh my C skills intensively and dedicate some
months full time to it. Not in my skill set. No, sorry, for that effort
I want good pay.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)