how are you guys compiling kdesu?

how are you guys compiling kdesu?

I’m compiling parts of kde-4.6.0 from sources at the opensuse downloads and the kdelibs does have the kdesu subfolder but not the kdesu application.

Do we just wrap it? I looks much too large to simply be wrapped. Any help out there?

Note that CMake doesn’t generate this file.

Also there are some missing dependencies that may also be unnoticed in kde-4.7, namely QtWebKit.

Thx.

It turns out that sure enough it is a matter compiling (k)wrapper as kdesu.

Not just wrapper.

So if you link kwrapper.o as the executable: kdesu, it will run.

What wrapper and kwrapper do is take their commandline argument and pass that, in a call to the lib with the same name (libkdesu.so in this case).

That way, the lib call and the commandline call are functionally equivalent which makes binary execution much faster and has negligible effect on calls from an interpreter.

Next question:

How do we find out what CMake is REALLY doing? What is it compiling, how is it compiling it, what flags are being set, and where is it sending the files?

What if we want to just compile one application, maybe with debug info in it but not the entire kdelibs conglomeration, which takes an hour to compile the first time and requires sitting on about a gig of files while you work on it, for example.

Any ideas? :wink:

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On 11/26/2011 08:16 AM, rainbowsally wrote:
> Next question:
>
> Any ideas?

maybe you notice you had no reply to the questions in your originating
post to this thread…

that could be because this is the forum named “Soapbox” which is
purposed for “Strong opinions about mostly anything (no political or
religious content)” and not at all intended for any sort of technical
help an openSUSE user might need–so many (most, all??) of the question
answering helpers avoid this thread (because they know it to be a place
where opinions clash [and most often just waste their limited time
available to help])…

i’d guess this thread is best sited (and will attract more code hacker
attention) in the forum named “Programming/Scripting” which is intended
for “Questions about programming, bash scripts, perl, php, cron jobs,
ruby, python, etc.”…and, therefore might have more coders moving
through…

you could ask a moderator to move the thread…

to avoid this happening again, you might consult the listing of
available forums at http://forums.opensuse.org/ to help you better
select the spot for your next thread origination…


DD
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!

Am 26.11.2011 10:36, schrieb DenverD:
> On 11/26/2011 08:16 AM, rainbowsally wrote:
>> Next question:
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
I would go a step farther than DenverD and think this questions are best
asked directly to the kde developers, not that here at the openSUSE
forums are no programmers, but why don’t you ask directly the kde people
who definitely can give you the correct answers quickly, precise and
without any guessing involved?

Just my 2ct


PC: oS 11.4 (dual boot 12.1) 64 bit | Intel Core i7-2600@3.40GHz | KDE
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Based on 1939 dollars? Your two cents would be worth something.

I don’t have permissions to post there – only to edit my posts, which leaves me at something of a loss in a 2011-dollars sort of way. :wink:

I may get off this kind of ‘moderation’ eventually. Been a member since 2008 or something but I guess I said something that upset someone. I “wasn’t shy” and “jumped on in” and what do you know. Sharks.

But I’m glad those old posts got wiped out, actually. Eventually I’ll get up to speed here with DD’s help.

As to your recommendation re. posting to KDE. I don’t agree to their privacy policy regarding my email address. No-can-do.

Thanks for the opportunity to explain my quandries.

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On 11/27/2011 01:16 AM, rainbowsally wrote:
>
> As to your recommendation re. posting to KDE. I don’t agree to their
> privacy policy regarding my email address. No-can-do.

if you elect to not post it to the folks you are tying to help (KDE),
then you should also elect to not post to the folks who can not act on
your recommendations (us)…

and, i’d suggest you write your recommendations on paper (or a CD, thumb
drive, whatever) and use a postage stamp to fashioned mail it to the
folks you want to have your recommendations!

alternatively: smart folks have been using “throw-away” email addresses
to do such since 1995, at least…

but, posting it here hoping the KDE developers find your gems is counter
intuitive…


DD
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 00:16:03 +0000, rainbowsally wrote:

> Based on 1939 dollars? Your two cents would be worth something.

Remember that the T&Cs do not allow personal attacks. Make sure you’re
not walking anywhere near that territory.

> I don’t have permissions to post there – only to edit my posts, which
> leaves me at something of a loss in a 2011-dollars sort of way. :wink:
>
> I may get off this kind of ‘moderation’ eventually. Been a member since
> 2008 or something but I guess I said something that upset someone.
> I “wasn’t shy” and “jumped on in” and what do you know. Sharks.

You are fully able to post in any of the openSUSE forums. You were asked
to stay on topic and not post long rambling threads where you were
replying to yourself in a manner that’s better suited for a blog.

As long as you follow the rules, you won’t run into any problems.

Jim

Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C

I’ll check again to see if I can actually post. A couple times I got interesting status listings such as I could NOT post but I COULD edit my posts. :wink:

As far as your advice about personal attacks goes, I just have to remember and it will be fine. :wink:

Thanks.

Now, if you happen to know, how do I make a simple bootable CD. I’d like to modify the Rescue System to at least mount the partitions.

Have you done anything like that?

And if you find my comments have enough validity to issue bug reports to KDE or to the linux guys, the way I see it is that you have just as much ability as I to do so. And you had it last.

I’m pretty busy and can’t spend a lot of time filling out multiple-choice questions that don’t apply to my wild and crazy way of doing things. Oh! Wild, crazy and often dangerous.

Which brings me to the point of this post today.

I’d like to modify the Rescue System so that it at least mounts the various partitions and put it on a separate CD.

Any help there?

Anyone?

the way I see it is that you have just as much ability as I to do so
:smiley:
Metaphorically speaking, if you had a Flea infestation, it’d be no use telling us to scratch them.

On 11/28/2011 11:56 AM, rainbowsally wrote:
>
> Now, if you happen to know, how do I make a simple bootable CD. I’d
> like to modify the Rescue System to at least mount the partitions.

this is Soapbox, and not a forum for help with technical questions such
as this on…

> Have you done anything like that?

no, i have not…

you might want to look into using SUSE Studio <http://susestudio.com/> i
think all disk images produced there are bootable…

> And if you find my comments have enough validity to issue bug reports
> to KDE or to the linux guys, the way I see it is that you have just as
> much ability as I to do so.

first, it is not my task here to decided if what you find is valid or not.

but even if i could validate your findings i wouldn’t dare put them into
a bug, because if the devs want to take action they may (probably will)
have question on (for example) how you came to your conclusions, or what
happens if you run this new bit of code (that they provide) on your
machine, and ANY of those kinds of answers only YOU can provide…so, it
would be a total waste of my time and theirs for me to try to post the
bugs you find.

> I’m pretty busy and can’t spend a lot of time filling out
> multiple-choice questions that don’t apply to my wild and crazy way of
> doing things.

yet you wish to waste the time of the folks here who can NOT act on your
KDE improvement!!

so, you are too busy to do it correctly but not too busy to do it
incorrectly?? get real!

> I’d like to modify the Rescue System so that it at least mounts the
> various partitions and put it on a separate CD.
> Any help there?

sounds like a task with a perfect tool: SUSE Studio


DD
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 10:46:02 +0000, rainbowsally wrote:

> I’ll check again to see if I can actually post. A couple times I got
> interesting status listings such as I could NOT post but I COULD edit my
> posts. :wink:

If you have trouble, send me a PM and I’ll look into it.

Jim


Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C

Thanks for the comments and the offers of help.

But (and since it’s not a violation of the soapbox t&c), I’d like to get back to the point.

Indeed you can take the kwrapper.o object and link it as kdesu and it will run.

Details in previous posts.

Thanks again to all.