How are the openSUSE news?

Hi oldcpu,
how do you think about “Wiki of the week”? You mean that we every issue have an wiki? Like linux-club?
An own Place for Packagers an interesting Idea. I not thought about them before.How can we relize that? I think an own Section, where Packagers can post updates (maybe with an reference to the Bugzilla Report).
Sincerly yours Sascha

I confess I don’t know about Linux-club. I’ll have to look up and see what they do … maybe its better than my idea.

No, what I was thinking was a weekly entry that would look something like:

Wiki of the Week:
This week’s wiki of mention is the VDPAU wiki. This is applicable to user’s who have a newer nVidia graphic card, who wish to be able to play back HD video. Check it out on: Video editing/avchd - openSUSE

and the next week:

Wiki of the Week:
This week’s wiki is for the openSUSE chess players, ie for all you casual coffee house Paul Morphy/Bobby Fischer style chess players who want to teach your computer a lesson in logic. In the wiki there are reference to chess program front ends, chess engines, chess database programs, and various chess utility programs. In some cases the programs have not been tested on openSUSE, and contributers there are especially welcome to test it, and update the wiki as required. Check it out on: Games/Chess - openSUSE

and the next week:

Wiki of the Week:
This week’s wiki of mention is the openSUSE audio troubleshooting guide. This is applicable more to user’s who have an older openSUSE version, or have new hardware, and who need a refresher on things they can do/check, to get their audio working. Check it out on: SDB:AudioTroubleshooting - openSUSE

and the next week:

**Wiki of the Week: **
This week’s wiki of mention is the openSUSE ATI driver guide. This is applicable to user’s who have an ATI card, and wish to install a proprietary graphic driver. Check it out on: ATI - openSUSE

and the next week:

Wiki of the Week:
This week’s wiki of mention is for users who wish to do a custom edit to their home videos. While there is a LOT of information in this wiki, as you can see it still needs work. Volunteers are needed to PLEASE help clean it up, while still retaining the superb technical content. Check it out on: Video editing - openSUSE

I hope that gives the idea. I concede this is not news … but rather it is using the weekly news as a forum for bringing user’s attention to various wiki. … BUT if there is something new happen (ie a problem that impacts many) where an immediate wiki is helpful, then that wiki could be made “wiki of the week”.

There is an openSUSE wiki team, and they could be consulted as to what they wish to see for the “wiki of the week”.

I think we need to convince yaloki this idea as a place for Packagers is useful. If we can convince him, then he can put pressure on the Packman packagers and also on the openSUSE board to influence the Novell/SuSE-GmbH packagers. That might be a start.

This idea is interesting. ATM we have carl fletcher who gives us an Thread Introduction in his Subsection “openSUSE Forums”. But maybe we can integrate this into our “openSUSE” Section. Maybe you can ask Carl for contributing this Idea…

Just fine. Rarely puts you in a killer mood. JPA:)

I think/guess (*) the content is interesting, but I was put off by the way the news are presented.

a) the page is no suitable for comfortable reading on high-res screens (WUXGA here)

b) the excerpts are too short, too nervous, too chaotic, for me it looks like somebody put some stuff in MTV-style in a hurry, to look cool&trendy

(*) “guess” because due to those shortcomings I gave up reading the news

So advice from my perspective:
slow down, re-design the layout, don’t jump from topic to topic, it is not olympics, make the user settle in.

Analysis:
OpenSUSE Weekly News/84 - openSUSE

Look, from beginning links, links, links. It is not the reading, waste of space, and I am already nervous. And next is not better small captions, small texts, icons per section not per article. What’s worse – articles are not grouped by topic (“programming”), but of category (announcement/on-the-web/…/), so I am in interested in security news, I have to sift trough all sections instead of reading one topic “security news”.

Or maybe this MTV-style is simply not for me (i.e. I am not target audience).

Cheers,

Well, there is an openSUSE wiki team …
Wiki Team - openSUSE

I think it may be more useful if they could take ‘ownership’ of the idea, and select the wiki they wish to see each week, and then send the wiki reference (with a max few sentence lead in, like my examples) to who ever co-ordinates the section of the weekly news where the “wiki” para will appear. Lets say this is caf4926.

Given this is only one wiki / week with a small sentence, I don’t see it as a lot of work. The wiki team (Beineri) could do something like send caf4926 12xwiki URLs (with short narrative) every few months, and caf4926 would apply one per week. When the list gets down to 2 or 3 wiki, caf4926 could email/PM Beineri asking for another 12. … And any urgent wiki could be given priority for the next news.

I’ll send caf4926 and Beineri (who coordinates all the wiki) a PM and see if either think the idea is worth picking up and running with.

@truemacias: Thanks for your View. That’s true we have many Links. But our goal is just to give the people an overview.
You said, we should redesign our Template. But it is redesigned since a few month. I think this is ok.
An own Subrange "Programming is an interesting Idea. I think we can focus that.
Than you wished an “Security” Section. But we have also an “Security Updates” Section. These Articles are provided by opensuse-security-announce. And that’s all who are provided by openSUSE. And i think this is enough.

I think that should have read " who contributes to the wiki process … "

My apologies for any inaccuracies.

  • Do you read OWN (almost) every week?

yes

  • Do you like current look & feel of OWN in HTML format on
    news.opensuse.org [2]? And let us know the reason.

yes & no - looks good & well organized - small text (hard to read)

  • Do you like current look & feel of OWN in PDF format on
    news.opensuse.org [3]? And let us know the reason.

[QUOTE]haven’t looked at it yet

  • Which do you like to read more, HTML version on news.o.o or PDF
    format (or Wiki format [4] as once they were)? Which is more
    convenient for you?

?

  • What kind of articles do you think more important? How do you think
    the order of priority should be?

like the kernel news, program reviews (new programs), and forum tips

a. Official announcements from openSUSE project
b. Status reports from sub projects and community
c. Tips and Howtos on openSUSE
d. Personal blogs related to openSUSE
e. Genaral information and news on broader Linux/FLOSS comminity,
which aren’t aggregated on planet.o.o

a,c,b,e,d

  • What kind of articles and informations do you want to read in OWN
    besides those in current OWN?

listing of programs to be included/deprecated in next versions

  • Are there any sections which you don’t need in current OWN?

no opinion

  • Do you have any idea to improve OWN from readers point of view?

no