Hi and thank you to all who contributed to openSUSE 11.2

Having downloaded and successfully installed openSUSE 11.2 I’d first of all like to thank everyone who contributed to the creation of this software, it’s very much appreciated.

I’m very impressed with my first venture into Linux software. I still can’t believe how quick and stable it is, I have to admit I was expecting the odd lock up, freeze etc… but to date nothing…<:)

I now have both Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit and openSUSE 11.2 64bit on the same computer, each on a separate hard drive, I’d say on my system openSUSE boots quicker and seems a lot kinder on the hardware, especially the hard drive!

Now looking forward to delving further into areas such as Samba.

Many thanks
Jim

I’m sure the Novell guys and the community appriciate your comments, should you feel that it’s worth your $ (as support) you might want to consider buying the boxed set of 11.2 from Novell - you get a cute box :slight_smile:

Welcome to openSUSE, and WELCOME to our openSUSE forum. This is staffed by volunteers, so any and all help we can get (and also give) is most welcome.

Some Links I typically pass to new users are:

I did think of purchasing 11.2 before downloading it and I probably will do so if I’m going to use it on a regular basis. In any case I’d most likely want to at least make a donation if that is at all possible. (See we Scots are not tight at all!)

One of my hobbies is programming PIC MCUs, therefore I’d want to make sure I can find software and hardware that are both compatible with Linux.

Are there any retailers of openSUSE in the UK?

Jim

A couple of good URLs for finding software are here:

Having provided those sites, with respect to installing software on openSUSE, a word of caution based on my own somewhat subjective views. … IMHO its best to setup your software package manager with 4 repositories and ONLY 4 repositories. Non others. None. Those 4 are:

  • OSS
    : The main repository, open source software only. (all the software that is on install DVD plus more)
  • Non-OSS
    : Non free (as in freedom) software, such as Flashplayer, Java, Opera, IPW-firmware, RealPlayer etc.
  • Update:
    Repository for official security and bugfix updates. (will update rpms from both OSS and Non-OSS)
  • Packman
    : largest 3rd party repository with excellent non-crippled multimedia applications which should be installed in place of Novell/SuSE-GmbH packaged rpms of same file name.
    There is guidance here describing how to do that Repositories/11.2 - openSUSE-Community … the chances are the 1st three (OSS, Non-OSS, and Update are already installed and you just need to add Packman). Again, just those 4.

Why only those 4 ?

OpenSUSE is going thru a period with the new “Build Service” where anyone who can package an rpm can create their own repository, and this has lead to a tremendous repository proliferation. It has meant many more applications are available for openSUSE, but it has also created problems, where applications are here today, and gone tomorrow on private repositories, … applications are not subjected to rigorous testing, the rpms in some of the repositories may not be built to a consistent quality and may have inadequate dependency checking, or may be simply built on a complex baseline of applications from other adhoc repositories, making installation difficult. Having many repositories means zypper/yast software package manager has to evaluate the installation of many possible rpms, and may run into dependency problems because some of those 3rd party rpms are not built to a good standard, or because they are deliberately built to a non-comon baseline. And sometimes rpms from other repos just break one’s application and its difficult to figure out that an rpm is responsible for the problem.

Hence ONLY the 4 repositories I recommend: OSS, Non-OSS, Update and Packman. One can add other repositories (repos) very briefly, and then remove immediately the repos after installing the app one wants. This is very easy by typing (with root/admin permissions)

[LEFT]zypper ar <URL of repos> <aribitrary-repos-name> #ar=add repository
zypper install <name of application>
zypper rr <arbitrary-repos-name> #rr=remove repository[/LEFT]
For example, lets say I want to install the application “bluefish”. I search for it on web pin and get this hit: Webpin - result of “bluefish” search

Clearly “bluefish” can be found in the repository

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Education/openSUSE_11.2

So to install it, I would type:

zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Education/openSUSE_11.2 education
zypper install bluefish
zypper rr education

and thats it - a very easy install.

Good luck !

Awwww you’re so tough! Not even the Mozilla repo for updated Firefox?

Nice openSUSE-11.2 review you made in the Distrowatch comments, shame so few will get down that far and read it there.

Hi oldcpu and thank you for your very informative post.

I’ve looked at the package manager on my system and I appear to have eight repositories added.

**“http://packman.mirrors.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.2

http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.2/

“cd:///”

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/11.2:/NonFree/standard/

http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/11.2/repo/oss/

http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.2/repo/non-oss/

http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.2/repo/oss/

http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/11.2/repo/oss/”**

Would you remove the other four that aren’t listed in your post?

Please excuse that query… I know this is not the place to be asking questions!

Many thanks
Jim

If it were me, I would DISABLE the one’s in red.

Thanks you for taking the time to reply, much appreciated!

I have disabled the repositories as advised.

Many thanks
Jim

I find those 4 repositories work very well in keeping my system stable. On the rare occassion when I want an application not included in those repositories, I will briefly add and remove a repository. This is very easy if one knows how to copy and paste, and is not afraid of the terminal.

I use a terminal and I do the following with root permissions (I typically type “su” first):

**zypper ar <new-repo-url> <arbitrary name of repos> ** # add repository <new-repos-url> and call it <arbitrary name of respo>

zypper install desired-application #where name of program is “desired-application”

zypper rr <arbitrary name of repos> # remove repository <arbitrary name of repos>

For example, lets say I wish to install the application “bluefish” in openSUSE-11.2, but I note it is not included in those 4 repositories. So I go to webpin and do a search for bluefish and get this hit: Webpin search results for bluefish

From there I notice it is available in a “stable” and an “unstable” version. Lets say the “stable” version on the education repository interests me. RATHER than use the 1 click install, what I do is select and copy the education repository URL from the “webpin” page:

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Education/openSUSE_11.2

So the above is what I have copied.

Now I open a terminal and I type the following (except for the URL that I pasted):

zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Education/openSUSE_11.2 education
zypper install bluefish
zypper rr education

and that is it.

I much prefer the above method over the one-click, because I have more insight and more control as to what is going on. It is a simply copy and paste of the URL with very minimal typing.

ooooops … I typed the same thing twice. I should read my own posts, instead of relying on a bad memory.