!HELP! upgrade to 13.1 !HELP!

I am currently using opensuse 12.1 and I want to upgrade to 13.1. I have tried installing from my portable harddisk (that’s how I installed 12.1) but it wouldn’t wourk then I tried zypper dup but that did not do much. any ideas?

And what did you do exactly?

It should work if you just write the ISO to the harddisk with SUSE ImageWriter (you would lose all data/partitions that are already on there then of course).

There are other methods as well though.

then I tried zypper dup but that did not do much.

You would have to change your repo URLs to point to the 13.1 repos first.
See here:
SDB:System upgrade - openSUSE

But please note that upgrading 12.1 to 13.1 is quite a big jump and absolutely not supported.
You could encounter problems.
It could just work well as well, though.

Maybe you should condider upgrading to 12.2/12.3 first.

Hello,

i actually run 12.3
What is the recommended method to upgrade to 13.1… whithout lost my datas? 'account, mails and so on)
I have no idea how to do it.

Thank’s in advance.

Jean-Charles (near Lyon)

Hm, you clearly stated:

I am currently using opensuse 12.1 and I want to upgrade to 13.1.
:stuck_out_tongue:

Edit: Oops, I didn’t notice that you are not the OP, sorry…
Forget this, then.

What is the recommended method to upgrade to 13.1… whithout lost my datas? 'account, mails and so on)
I have no idea how to do it.

Well, you mainly have two options:
Download the installation DVD, boot from it and choose “Upgrade an existing system” (Offline Upgrade),
or do the Online Upgrade with zypper dup.
I gave you a link to the instructions already.

Then there’s of course the NET-install ISO which is much smaller that the DVD (~200MB) but downloads all the packages from the Internet. Otherwise it’s the same as the DVD, so the Offline Upgrade instructions apply here. You have to have a working Internet connection during the upgrade though, obviously.

It should not matter which of those methods you choose.

On 2013-11-24 14:06, kaylin1997 wrote:
>
> I am currently using opensuse 12.1 and I want to upgrade to 13.1. I have
> tried installing from my portable harddisk (that’s how I installed 12.1)
> but it wouldn’t wourk then I tried zypper dup but that did not do much.
> any ideas?

“Do much”? What do you mean? Did it start and then stop? You have a
broken system, then.

Do no attempt a zypper dup from 12.1 to 13.1, it is not supported. You
have to go one version at a time: 12.2, 12.3, 13.1.

Or boot from the DVD or USB and upgrade offline. That might work in one
step, with hiccups.

Online upgrade
method

Offline upgrade
method

Chapter 16. Upgrading the System and System Changes
openSUSE 12.3 Release Notes
openSUSE 13.1 Release Notes


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

Well,
i didn’t wrote “12.1”: i am note the first personn of this thread. Maybe i would be better to open another thread next time. Sorry. 'Edit Ooooooooooooops my turn: i didn’t saw YOUR Oops :))

OK, i wil dowload a dvd iso and burn it; i was not sure that upgrade was posible with it. I have install 12.3 ine month ago (no linux at home since… whao, so long ago!!!)

Jean-Charles

On 2013-11-24 14:26, Bac a sable wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> i actually run 12.3
> What is the recommended method to upgrade to 13.1… whithout lost my
> datas? 'account, mails and so on)
> I have no idea how to do it.

You should ask on a new thread and not hijack another. It will be
confusing for us and for kaylin1997.

For real system upgrade:

Online upgrade
method

Offline upgrade
method

Chapter 16. Upgrading the System and System Changes
openSUSE 12.3 Release Notes
openSUSE 13.1 Release Notes

However, if by data you mean your user’s data, that is stored in /home,
and home is normally a separate partition. You can install fresh on top,
keeping home not formatted.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

On 2013-11-24 14:36, wolfi323 wrote:
> It should not matter which of those methods you choose.

It does: the online method will very probably break. At least, you have
to update the zypper and rpm stack on advance.

As it is a non supported scenario, and not one I experiment with, I can
not give more detailed instructions.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

No it won’t, if he follows the instructions.
And if it would, why are you advising it as well in your other post? You’re just linking to the same instructions without further comment, so…

Updating the zypper stack cannot harm, but only really was necessary on one older distribution version because of a bug/limitation in zypper (don’t remember which one it was now)

In addition, I personally did upgrade using “zypper dup” at least from 12.1 to 12.2 and 12.2 to 12.3 without upgrading the software stack first…

Originally, i just want to upagrade seamonkey. I saw the lastr version was not in 12.3 but was in 13.1. This is why i am upgrading (well, i should have upgrade sooner)
I have tried to add 13.1 repository in yast this afternoon: tons of warnings occure, so i stop and went here to have advices.
I am downloading 13.1 iso while writing this.

Jean-Charles

On 2013-11-24 15:16, wolfi323 wrote:
>
> robin_listas;2601322 Wrote:
>> On 2013-11-24 14:36, wolfi323 wrote:
>>> It should not matter which of those methods you choose.
>>
>> It does: the online method will very probably break. At least, you have
>> to update the zypper and rpm stack on advance.
>>
> No it won’t, if he follows the instructions.
> And if it would, why are you advising it as well in your other post?
> You’re just linking to the same instructions without further comment,
> so…

It is my understanding that a jump so big with an online system upgrade
will likely fail, whereas an offline system upgrade will probably succeed.

Further, why would I need to write more comments, when I wrote entirely
one of those links?

> Updating the zypper stack cannot harm, but only really was necessary on
> one older distribution version because of a bug/limitation in zypper
> (don’t remember which one it was now)

The devs have stated that upgrading the stack might be necessary even to
go from 12.3 to 13.1.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

The post you replied to and quoted was about upgrading from 12.3 to 13.1.

And I did state in a post before that directly upgrading from 12.1 to 13.1 could give problems.
Btw, I don’t think an offline upgrade is much safer in this regard.
The main problem lies in the migration of the system’s configuration, not in the installation of the packages themself.
The offline upgrade doesn’t differ much in that regard, I think.

Further, why would I need to write more comments, when I wrote entirely
one of those links?

I don’t say you would need to write more comments.
But why did you comment then that my statement is wrong and the online upgrade will most likely fail, when you in fact point to the very same instructions (without further comments) ? :\

> Updating the zypper stack cannot harm, but only really was necessary on
> one older distribution version because of a bug/limitation in zypper
> (don’t remember which one it was now)

The devs have stated that upgrading the stack might be necessary even to
go from 12.3 to 13.1.

Did they? I never read that anywhere.

And if 12.3’s zypper wasn’t able to cope with the upgrade, how would an upgrade from 12.2 to 12.3 work then (even if you upgrade zypper first)? :sarcastic:

Again, there’s nothing wrong with upgrading zypper first, and it was even recommended some time ago (and for one particular version it was even mandatory). But it is not necessary. Not doing it will not make “the online method will very probably break” true in current versions (this includes 12.1).

On 2013-11-24 18:46, wolfi323 wrote:
>
> robin_listas;2601345 Wrote:

> The post you replied to and quoted was about upgrading from 12.3 to
> 13.1.

Sigh. I did say that mixing two problems in the same thread was going to
be difficult. Sorry.

> And I did state in a post before that directly upgrading from 12.1 to
> 13.1 could give problems.
> Btw, I don’t think an offline upgrade is much safer in this regard.
> The main problem lies in the migration of the system’s configuration,
> not in the installation of the packages themself.
> The offline upgrade doesn’t differ much in that regard, I think.

It does, as a matter of fact. I can think of several reasons. It uses
its own rpm and zypper stack, so even a large update in this respect has
no effect. In general, it is more difficult to destabilize. It tends to
modifications that can not be added as part of rpm packages; for
example, the 13.1 dvd has code to remove several entries from the fstab
file.

You can even upgrade from 32 bits to 64 bits…

>> Further, why would I need to write more comments, when I wrote entirely
>> one of those links?
> I don’t say you would need to write more comments.
> But why did you comment then that my statement is wrong and the online
> upgrade will most likely fail, when you in fact point to the very same
> instructions (without further comments) ? :\

Because I thought you were recommending to upgrade from 12.1 to 13.1
with zypper dup.

> Again, there’s nothing wrong with upgrading zypper first, and it was
> even recommended some time ago (and for one particular version it was
> even mandatory). But it is not necessary. Not doing it will not make
> “the online method will very probably break” true in current versions
> (this includes 12.1).

The devs strongly recommended it for 13.1 upgrade.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)