Help a newbie out with the desktop

Hi all,
I’m brand new to Linux and I have a couple simple questions. I’m using openSUSE 12.3 and KDE.
When I minimize any window, YaST, Firefox, etc., the window disappears. I would expect programs to minimize to the task bar (sorry, I don’t know the proper name for it…).

Also, I’ve set the clock/date more than once now but it keeps changing. Am I doing something wrong?

And finally, after unsuccessfully searching, is there a tutorial for absolute beginners? As in, how to install software, how to set the clock…

And, I watched a video from the urban penguin where he advises against using the desktop while logged in as root, but he doesn’t specify how to tell whether you’re logged in as root, and if you are, how do you change that?

Thanks in advance for the help.
Vince

Well firstly yes we can call the bottom bar the taskbar (well task manager but close enough methinks
In any case are you not seeing minimized windows?
Strange unless you accidentally removed the task manager.
KDE is very much like windows so you should not have too much difficulty there fding where minimized windows.
Perhaps a screenshot?

Secondly I have had the clock issue on openSUSE myself, do you dual boot?

As for installing software its quite easy, YAST is your main tool for that and we can help guide you in using it.

And as for root, you should not be logged in as root by default, your settings should be standard user.
Only root can access root and you really should not enter root unless its needed.

Are you booting into a live session by any chance ?

un-official guide
1. Introduction - Beginner’s Guide to openSUSE 12.3 / SUSE Linux
official
openSUSE 12.3: Start-Up

Sounds like gnome shell.if so, to locate minimized windows press left “win” key.
If you are indeed using kde try and change activity to desktop icons by pressing the “three dots on the panel”.

Madman,
Thanks for the reply.
So, this is actually the second reply to you: the first disappeared when I tried to minimize this window to get a screen cap…
So far the only program that minimizes to the task manager is VLC player. Anything else disappears. Several times now I’ve had Firefox open with several tabs open and I made the mistake of minimizing the window…
A screen shot is something I’d prefer not to address in this particular response.
I do not dual boot. I’ve recently had my last run-in with windblows…
Regarding using YaST to install software, I’ve actually done it. Not ten minutes ago I installed VLC player, only to find it doesn’t recognize any of the thousands of FLV files I have. Any idea how to fix that?
Regarding being logged in as root or not, how does one tell?
Thanks again,
Vince

install vlc-codecs

vaz,

What is a live session?
Though I’m not positive, I’m pretty sure I’m using KDE. It seems to match KDE Plasma that is depicted in the user manual.
Thanks for the link, I’ll check it out.
Pressing the left window button does nothing.
Vince

you can run Linux without actually installing onto a machine. This is called a Live boot.

Then it is good :slight_smile:

you should read through both of them
Also this out for playing audio and videos on Linux
https://forums.opensuse.org/blogs/caf4926/opensuse-12-3-multi-media-restricted-format-installation-guide-126/

Well, I can’t help but think my install is not right in the head. Problem is, I’ve never used a Linux machine before so I have no idea what is normal and what isn’t. What I DO know is that I didn’t skimp on hardware but there is something going on with the graphics; there are weird quirks where different geometric shapes are appearing and then disappearing from different places on the screen. Happens mostly during video play, as in Youtube.

So, per vaz’s instructions, I downloaded the VLC codecs but the program still won’t play/recognize FLV files…

Edited to say that, no, it is not a live boot. I specifically didn’t want to do that. I wanted a full install.
Thanks,
Vince

On 05/19/2013 07:06 AM, partsabuser wrote:
>
> Hi all,

first: -=WELCOME=- new poster.

generally it is best in these forums to put only one problem into
each thread. and put that thread into the correct forum, and use a
descriptive of the problem subject line–what you want to do is
attract the attention of someone knowledgeable of your specific
problem…

> I’m brand new to Linux and I have a couple simple questions. I’m using
> openSUSE 12.3 and KDE.

you did that perfect, most any potential answer giver will need to
know the version of openSUSE and the Desktop Environment (DE) you are
using…

as you ‘grow’ in openSUSE you will learn how to introduce new
versions of KDE and since the newer versions might (will!) have
different problems and solutions it is also best to give your DE’s
version number…

> When I minimize any window, YaST, Firefox, etc., the window disappears.
> I would expect programs to minimize to the task bar (sorry, I don’t know
> the proper name for it…).

it sounds like you may have inadvertently deleted a really good part
of the ‘Panel’ (panel= that thing, usually at the bottom of the
screen (but can be top, or sides–as you wish) that holds all the
other things together (like: it default installs with a clock on the
right end, and a lizard on the left that calls up the menu system)

so, to get that thing back:

-right click on a blank spot on the desktop

-if you see “Unlock widgets”, left click it [if you see “Lock
widgets” don’t click it–because we want them unlocked right now]

-once the widgets are unlocked, single left click on the far right
end of the ‘Panel’

-in the resulting pop-up settings dialog, click on “Add widgets”

-the display will change, in the search box at the top of the setting
dialog type in the word Task (or ‘task’) and it will show you one or
more widgets with ‘Task’ in its name

-find “Task Manager” and hover the mouse over it, click and hold the
left mouse button and drag the a new Task Manager to the spot on the
Panel you wish it, and drop it in place

-now (and this is important) to keep from accidentally changing the
panel (or the desktop) again right click the desktop and pick “Lock
widgets”–most think it is best to leave it locked! because if not it
is pretty easy to delete parts of the panel, or the entire panel! (of
course, they are easy to get back–once you know how)

> Also, I’ve set the clock/date more than once now but it keeps changing.
> Am I doing something wrong?

do you dual boot with Windows or another operating system?

> And finally, after unsuccessfully searching, is there a tutorial for
> absolute beginners?

you bet! have a look at
http://doc.opensuse.org/products/opensuse/openSUSE/opensuse-startup/

>As in, how to install software,

http://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE/opensuse-startup/part.reference.software.html

> how to set the clock…

that is not as easy to find, and the answer you need depends on your
situation…hence the question “do you dual boot?”

> And, I watched a video from the urban penguin where he advises against
> using the desktop while logged in as root,

yes, it is bad practice and far far too easy to hose your system, and
it opens up your system to let bad things in if you log into the DE
as root. so the simple rule is: Do not log into the DE as root, ever.

> but he doesn’t specify how to tell whether you’re logged in as root

by default (depending on the choices you made during install)
openSUSE will either boot directly to the desktop as the User you
named and gave a password for…or, it will boot to a log in screen
where you must give the password…and, that log in screen will (by
default) show the name of the User you gave during install…

so, unless you do something strange (or WRONG) like not select YOUR
User name and give the pass, and instead type in the name of that
superuser named root–you will be in the DE as your User.

then to do root power required duties you can use a root powered tool
(like YaST to install software, and others)

read up on that here:
http://tinyurl.com/593e4c

, and if you are, how do you change that?

right click on the desktop and select “Leave”, in the resulting
dialog click “Log out”, the system will then land on a Log-in page,
log in as yourself and then you are yourself!


dd
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobile” of operating systems!
http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat

On 05/19/2013 07:56 AM, partsabuser wrote:
> Not
> ten minutes ago I installed VLC player, only to find it doesn’t
> recognize any of the thousands of FLV files I have. Any idea how to fix
> that?

do you see how this thread is growing out of control? lots of
different problems, lots of answers.

one problem in each thread…with the right subject in the right
forum…this problem should be in the multimedia forum…

the answer is: openSUSE is born with only free and OPEN
software…the software required to decode FLV (and other multimedia
files) must be added in by the user…the easiest way is to get it
right is to go to the multimedia forum http://tinyurl.com/4j4mtn7,
look to the top of the list and see if there are any ‘stickies’ and
read all of the stickies…in there i bet you find a step by step to
a smile… try it.


dd
http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat

On 5/19/2013 12:56 AM, partsabuser wrote:
<snip>
> Regarding being logged in as root or not, how does one tell?
> Thanks again,
> Vince
>
>
Vince;

In addition to what dd has written. Open a terminal. The “whoami” command will identify the user. But you can also tell by the
prompt. An ordinary user will have the prompt “[user]@[machine]:[path]>” while root’s prompt is “[machine]:[path] #”

As an example, my username is venzke and I am on the machine fermat.


venzke@fermat:~> whoami
venzke
venzke@fermat:~> su
Password:
fermat:/home/venzke # whoami
root
fermat:/home/venzke # exit
exit
venzke@fermat:~> whoami
venzke
venzke@fermat:~> cd /etc
venzke@fermat:/etc>


P.V.
“We’re all in this together, I’m pulling for you” Red Green

Thank you Denver,
I now have open applications docked on the task panel. BTW, how to tell which version of KDE?
Vince

On 19/05/13 09:16, partsabuser wrote:
>
> Thank you Denver,
> I now have open applications docked on the task panel. BTW, how to tell
> which version of KDE?
> Vince
>
>
As an example


konqueror&gt;help&gt;about kde
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--
Erik Jakobsen
Opensuse 12.3 64bit
Linux linux-z96b.site 3.7.10-1.4-desktop
KDE Version 4.10.2 "release 1"

Thank you, denzkep,
Perfectly clear.

Denver,
I see what you mean about this thread getting out of control. I’ll take a look at the link.
Thanks again guys.
Vince

On 05/19/2013 09:22 AM, Erik Jakobsen wrote:
> As an example
> konqueror>help>about kde

good answer Erik…a little more: that Help > About will work for
every KDE application (there are LOTS, like KWrite, KNote, KNode,
Kontack) i am aware of…

and, for non-KDE apps (like Firefox, VLC, BlueFish, etc etc) it works
to find their version, like my Firefox help > about firefox shows
me “20.0”, and Opera “12.15” “build 1748”

everything in Linux is EASY (once you know how)


dd
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobile” of operating systems!

If you click on the Aplication menu button in the lower left corner of the screen, your username is also listed there at the top.

Regarding your video problems:
What graphics card are you using?

Maybe you should install a proprietary video driver:
SDB:NVIDIA drivers - openSUSE
SDB:AMD fglrx - openSUSE

wolfi,
Thanks for the reply.
The graphics card is internal to the cpu; it’s a Radeon HD 7480D. I’ll take a look at the links you provided.
Vince

So you downloaded them, but did you also install them? And where did you download from?