Help.. 11.2, 1st lost mount DVD, then keyboard and mouse, Hate KDE 4.6

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Hello,
well, I was messing around, trying to find a way to mount an iso image.
I found fuse-iso… so I typed it… nothing happened, or so I thought.
then I found furious and found it worked. updated it. ok…
Then I was going to burn an iso to disk (CD, 380-something image).
Inserted disk, KDE notified me disk inserted, clicked on disk in notifier, but here is what I saw:
? Fuse-iso Mount
Copy with k3b
Do Nothing
-No ‘open with file manager’

So, I looked in Actions and found that Fuse was listed, but not ‘command’ line was given, so I removed and the ?Fuse-iso Mount was gone from Notifier and still no ‘File Manager’ (if I put a DVD in the drive I get an option to ‘play with vlc’, but if i chose that, there is no file as if the DVD is Not mounted. If I chose to copy the DVD, k3b doesn’t see any files, but it know the volume label. If I open a console, type mount, the DVD (CD) is not mounted and I can mount it and then see it in konqueror.

In trying now to fix the ‘auto-mount’ issue, I found an article that says I need Hal… So, launch Yast2 and I have Hal, but maybe I messed something up, so I updated it, but not before I added the Evergreen Repository to Yast2… Also updated k3b via packman at the same time…

Now… On re-start, I have NO Mouse/Keyboard (usb)… I powered off, and tested keyboard by going to setup… also at GRUB screen can scroll to failsafe, etc, but once I get the openSuSE green startup screen, the ‘num-lock’ goes out and the mouse cursor will Not move. Also tried a ps2 mouse and get No mouse at all…

Now, before the re-start and loss of mouse and keyboard, I tried to put a disk in and see if auto-mount worked and got Nothing… No Notification. I opened console and type mount and saw gvfs-fuse-daemon, something that I’ve never seen in mount list before… A post I read earlier said it (fuseiso) may load if mounting netdrives with nautilus. I do have several netdrives, but until today have never used nautilus, but it did load earlier today when I used the search function in launcher menu to find ‘search’ and inadvertently launch nautilus search…

I’m lost. I have a dell with 11.3 and an IBM with 11.4, but I HATE KDE 4.6 and especially what they did or neglected to do with the zoom function of qwenview which I use All day Everyday in my web design and met-art browsing… : )…

What to do? this 11.2 Dell is my ‘main’ workstation and I use it 18 plus hours a day, 7 days a week…
I like the IBM with 11.4 except for… Well as I said, Hate new gwenview and Really HATE, HATE dolphin… Dolphin Sucks and they removed at a minimum, the search function from KDE 4.6, konqueror… : (

Except for the obvious of moving ‘my documents’ (4 sata drives) to another machine and dealing with 11.4 or even 12 and that piece of шит ‘dolphin’… what can i do?

Oh, tried starting in ‘failsafe’ mode… as i said, i have keyboard to the GRUB menu, but not after… Still NO keyboard / mouse??

Thanks in advance… If you’ve read all the way to this point, I owe you a beer.
Спасибо,
Landis…
(Oh, that’s another thing… kde 4.6 changed Too many things, one being the language switch keys, candyland developers (‘all show, no go’… )

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On 12/12/2011 11:36 AM, landis wrote:
> I was messing around, trying to find a way to mount an iso
> image.

it would have been better to not go into “messing around” and instead
just ask here how to mount an iso…

if i had seen such a question, i would have answered:


su -                          <enter rootpassword)
mount -oloop 'full ISO path/name' /mnt

you should have then been able to access the files and folders of the
ISO in the folder named /mnt

unfortunately, i don’t know exactly how to recover from all the messing
around…maybe you can restore from your pre-problem backup…

–
DD
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!

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@landis: People here are willing to help on a voluntary basis. They’re not interested in all the things you hate, certainly not if words like that are capitalized, which is regarded as shouting.

Instead of “messing around” IMHO you should read in advance, like when you have new expensive equipment at home.

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so, no help, [edit]…

Landis.

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On 2011-12-12 23:16, landis wrote:
>
> so, no help, [edit]…

Sorry.

I have read your post twice yesterday and twice again today.
I have no idea what to do to repair whatever is broken. I do not know what
is broken.

Mounting an iso image on a loop is terrible easy. But you have done so many
changes for something that is so simple!

I can only suggest to restore from backup, or reinstall.

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Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

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thank you, but…

I know manually mounting a CD/DVD is easy, the point was I lost the ability for it to happen ‘automatically’…

My Biggest issue right now is that after the GRUB gui menu (‘opensuse ver xx … OR failsafte’ menu) I loose my keyboard and mouse… My ‘desktop’ comes up, and if I have the usb mouse plugged in i get the pointer, but can not move it or use the keyboard (even loose the ‘num-loc’ light.).
I’ve even tried plugging in a ps2 k/m … No Go.

What file would the newly installed HAL package be loaded in, at boot. Maybe I can REM that before it loads?

thanks again,
Landis…

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On 12/13/2011 12:23 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> I can only suggest to restore from backup, or reinstall.

+1

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DD
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!

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Thanks, but No thanks.
erase, restore is Not an answer it is a cop-out…
There is a reason and it should be found and made known…

I have fired people for believing that re-formate and re-install was the only (or easiest) way to ‘fix’ a users ‘errors’ or infection… Unexceptionable!

Thanks, though.
Landis.
p.s., what is “+1” mean… you are repeating yourself or seconding another (adding your vote to a post)?

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On 12/13/2011 10:26 AM, landis wrote:
> I know manually mounting a CD/DVD is easy, the point was I lost the
> ability for it to happen ‘automatically’…

your first post said your problem was in “trying to find a way to mount
an iso image”…now i wonder was it a problem with mounting an iso
image or automounting a CD/DVD…

what/which was your the actual symptoms of your problem, before you set
out to treat the symptom??

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DD http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!

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On 12/13/2011 12:46 PM, landis wrote:
>
> DenverD;2417672 Wrote:
>> On 12/13/2011 12:23 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> I can only suggest to restore from backup, or reinstall.
>>
>> +1
>
> Thanks, but No thanks.
> erase, restore is Not an answer it is a cop-out…
> There is a reason and it should be found and made known…

well, you do as you wish…but the orginal problem, which i don’t now
know what it was (either a can’t mount an iso image OR CD/DVD won’t auto
mount) is easily fixed and i wouldn’t begin to suggest a cop-out (like
reinstall, etc)…

BUT, since there is no way of knowing what was done during the “messing
around” i have zero idea of how to fix it other than:

-undo all you did, and get back to a stable system
or
-restore from backup or reinstall
then
-ask how to correctly solve the original problem

> p.s., what is “+1” mean… you are repeating yourself or seconding
> another (adding your vote to a post)?

it means i agree with the post. “+1” = “me too”

–
DD http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!

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On 2011-12-13 10:26, landis wrote:
>
> robin_listas;2417560 Wrote:
>>
>> Sorry.
>> I have read your post twice yesterday and twice again today…
>>
>> Mounting an iso image on a loop is terrible easy. But you have done so
>> many
>> changes for something that is so simple!
>> –
>> Cheers / Saludos,
>> Carlos E. R.
>
> thank you, but…
>
> I know manually mounting a CD/DVD is easy, the point was I lost the
> ability for it to happen ‘automatically’…

Your first description was “mount an iso image”, which is way different
than automounting a CD.

>
> My Biggest issue right now is that after the GRUB gui menu (‘opensuse
> ver xx … OR failsafte’ menu) I loose my keyboard and mouse… My
> ‘desktop’ comes up, and if I have the usb mouse plugged in i get the
> pointer, but can not move it or use the keyboard (even loose the
> ‘num-loc’ light.).
> I’ve even tried plugging in a ps2 k/m … No Go.
>
> What file would the newly installed HAL package be loaded in, at boot.
> Maybe I can REM that before it loads?

Installed HAL - gosh :frowning:
What a nightmare.

The only method is to boot a live system, or another partition, and then
work on the rpm database of the real install to find out what you
installed, uninstall all that, and replace with the original packages,
which we have no way to know.

Or read the boot log using the live, try to see error messages about
keyboard. If there is any.

No sir, only practical method is restore from backup, or reinstall.
I’m not a magician.

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Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

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Wrong :D. Boot from a LiveCD/USB-disk, and “take over” the installed system. Here’s a thread http://forums.opensuse.org/nederlands-dutch/community/nl-how-tos/453092-systeem-overnemen-met-een-livecd.html in the dutch subforums on howto do that. The commands are allt there, if you want the entire read, have Google translate it.

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that was my only guess… : )

Landis.