I just wanted to point out that Alt-F1 or Alt-F2 no longer works for me after my clean upgrade from 12.2 to 12.3. It appears that the new shortcuts use the meta or windows key to display the kickstart menu or krunner so meta-F1 or meta-F2.
This came to light for me after many days of thinking KDE got rid of krunner and possibly a broken hotkey layout. It turns out that krunner was not set to auto-start after the upgrade and also KDE changed the default shortcut keys.
On 2013-03-20, anika200 <anika200@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
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> I just wanted to point out that Alt-F1 or Alt-F2 no longer works for me
> after my clean upgrade from 12.2 to 12.3. It appears that the new
> shortcuts use the meta or windows key to display the kickstart menu or
> krunner so meta-F1 or meta-F2.
Interesting. I installed openSUSE 12.3 KDE from scratch and Alt-F1 and Alt-F2 work for me normally whereas Meta-F1 and
Meta-F2 do nothing, just as before in 12.2. You sure some imp hasn’t switched your Meta and Alt keys? 
Alt here too
Well thats the wierdest thing, on this box which received a clean wipe of /root and install of 12.3 I have to use the meta key. On another pc that I upgraded with zypper dup I still have to use Alt-F1 etc…
I remember reading on the KDE forums that things with the meta key were changing as of 4.98 or so but I never saw it here and figured it just never made it into the build.
Now I wonder what is going on, gremlins I guess.:\
Wiping /root is not very clever and probably not effective for what you try to tell.
But the definition of keys (as you want to change their functionality from the default) is a personal setting in the desktop (or do you think it wise to change that for all users at your whim?) And thus as long as you do not “wipe” youu home partition, or more carefully your personal home directory, or to further down, your ~/.kde directory, such a setting will survive an installation. (And that is of course why we advise to keep your /home over an installation).
Perhaps the setting is in .kde4
Did you keep /home
I did
But let me just check a sandbox which is a completely clean everything
Here I am in my 12.3 sandbox kde
Alt is still used here
On 03/20/2013 05:46 PM, anika200 wrote:
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> I just wanted to point out that Alt-F1 or Alt-F2 no longer works for me
> after my clean upgrade from 12.2 to 12.3. It appears that the new
> shortcuts use the meta or windows key to display the kickstart menu or
> krunner so meta-F1 or meta-F2.
> This came to light for me after many days of thinking KDE got rid of
> krunner and possibly a broken hotkey layout. It turns out that krunner
> was not set to auto-start after the upgrade and also KDE changed the
> default shortcut keys.
i think maybe you had a borked install…did you self-test the
install media?
ohhhhh!!! i see “clean upgrade from 12.2 to 12.3” and i have NO idea
what you mean by “clean upgrade”!
which of these three recommended and supported ways did you upgrade
(without skipping or moving any steps!):
http://tinyurl.com/35p966c
http://tinyurl.com/93uemsr
http://tinyurl.com/7l4m2td
if you got creative (and didn’t follow one of these ways) you may be
reaping the unwanted benefits of upgrading in an unsupported, and
likely to fail, way.
hahaha lol! neither did anyone else. I did not get any of your recommendations in my previous thread. lol!
Seriously, those documents you pointed too are very hard to find for some reason. The method I used wasfrom here and was old but that is what you get when you use google.
Anyway, the only odd thing I have seen is this Alt-F1 thing and Krunner not starting and Ati driver does not install ( I think I have that fixed now) and the network did not start the first time.
Borked install and all I am pretty happy with the situation sans the few things.
In a nutshell, what I did was to wipe /root and keep home and do the install as suggested in the thread linked above.
On 03/21/2013 01:26 AM, anika200 wrote:
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> dd;2538664
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>> i have NO idea what you mean by “clean upgrade”!
>
> hahaha lol! neither did anyone else. I did not get any of your
> recommendations in ‘my previous thread’ (http://tinyurl.com/cvgezmm).
> lol!
i can’t be everywhere…
>
> Seriously, those documents you pointed too are very hard to find for
> some reason.
by the time i read that thread you had already been given those
exact same three URLs, by Carlos in post #3
they should not have been SO hard to find.
> Borked install and all I am pretty happy with the situation sans the
> few things.
understand! there is some good stuff here…the reliability,
dependability and currency of the wiki is not one of them,
unfortunately… it used to be better.
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dd
I still do not understand. What is the use of “wiping” the home directory of the user root?
Sorry, it was the / mount point not /root.
Which is something quite different >:(
I had the unfortunate opportunity to totally re-install the system in question today ( new home partition too) and low an behold the Meta-F1 key is still the shortcut for the kmenu. I dunno what the difference is, I am using an old mac keyboard on the pc???
On 03/21/2013 11:26 PM, anika200 wrote:
> I am using an old mac keyboard on the pc???
so, instead of an openSUSE problem, it is a hardware problem, huh?
you can try this, it might help: go Personal Settings - Configure
Desktop > Hardware > Input Devices > Keyboard > Hardware (tab) >
Keyboard Model: and spin the arrow to some kind of Apple…several
are listed, maybe the “Macintosh” or “Macintosh Old” will work…
or, maybe some other Apple setting…
or, maybe that old keyboard is broken (which is why it is not
correctly identifying itself to the system during boot)…so,
consider looking around in the recycle shops and see if you can pick
up an old IBM keyboard…pick a really heavy one and it will last a
decade, or more…
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dd
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On 2013-03-22, dd <dd@home.dk> wrote:
> or, maybe that old keyboard is broken (which is why it is not
> correctly identifying itself to the system during boot)…so,
> consider looking around in the recycle shops and see if you can pick
> up an old IBM keyboard…pick a really heavy one and it will last a
> decade, or more…
… if none of your local recycle shopes happen have the IBM keyboard you’re looking forward, you could do a lot
worse than a Cherry G80-3000 with MX Blue mechnical switches…
On 2013-03-22, dd <dd@home.dk> wrote:
> or, maybe that old keyboard is broken (which is why it is not
> correctly identifying itself to the system during boot)…so,
> consider looking around in the recycle shops and see if you can pick
> up an old IBM keyboard…pick a really heavy one and it will last a
> decade, or more…
>
… or if your local recycle shops happen not to have the old IBM keyboard model you’re looking for, you could do a lot
worse than a Cherry G80-3000 with Blue MX mechanical switches …
I never said it was a problem rather I would consider it an enhancement :). I have a reserve of old keyboards I am working my way through. I like this old mac one though because it has the two usb ports, volume controls and seperate numkey pad etc… G80-3000, hmmm might have to hunt one down. I have an old IBM one in the basement but it is PS1, real old school.
On 03/22/2013 12:26 PM, anika200 wrote:
> I neve said it was a problem
i guess i misunderstood…
no wait, you misunderstood: this is a help forum where people with
problems seek assistance…in fact the full name of this forum is:
Forum: Applications - Questions about desktops (KDE, Gnome,
XFCE, etc.), software applications (configuration, usage, bugs,
documentation)
it is not a “I just wanted to point out that Alt-F1 or Alt-F2 no
longer works for me, but that is NOT a problem for me, instead I
would consider it an enhancement…”
those kinds of non-problem, non-question statement should go to
chit-chat or somewhere other than where folks ASK for help…please!!
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dd
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Give me a break, grumpy;) I would say this is borderline case as it is certainly unexpected behavior and as far as I can tell not the intended behavior of the OS. If I was offended by it I would need help to fix it and since you seem very keen on the topic consider me officially offended by this Meta-F1 nonsense. Help …please. >:)