Having troiuble sending mail to mailing list

I’m getting all the mail that I send to
curl-users@cool.haxx.se
sent back to me.

I am subscribed, I tried sending a request to the admin at
curl-users-owner@cool.haxx.se
But that also got returned to sender.

Ideas?

On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 21:26:03 +0000, ballsystemlord wrote:

> I’m getting all the mail that I send to ‘curl-users@cool.haxx.se’
> (http://tinyurl.com/peswg9s) sent back to me.
>
> I am subscribed, I tried sending a request to the admin at
> ‘curl-users-owner@cool.haxx.se’ (http://tinyurl.com/qjjubuh)
> But that also got returned to sender.
>
> Ideas?

Hard to say - the links you posted seem to go directly to a mail service
rather than providing the headers from the bounced message.

Try just pasting the information from the return message between code
tags, and someone here should be able to decypher the problem for you.

Jim


Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C


This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of
its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address
failed:

<[curl-users@cool.haxx.se](http://service.mail.com/callgate-6.72.2.0/rms/6.72.2.0/mail/getBody?folderId=1&messageId=MTImKAG0Wy89KPOpum1uWKRhZqWpBpgu&purpose=display&bodyType=htmlNoExternals#)>

--- The header of the original message is following. ---

Received:  from mailout-us.gmx.com ([172.19.198.46]) by mrigmx.server.lan
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 <[curl-users@cool.haxx.se](http://service.mail.com/callgate-6.72.2.0/rms/6.72.2.0/mail/getBody?folderId=1&messageId=MTImKAG0Wy89KPOpum1uWKRhZqWpBpgu&purpose=display&bodyType=htmlNoExternals#)>; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 22:41:38 +0200
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:41:35 -0400
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On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 18:06:04 +0000, ballsystemlord wrote:

> Code: --------------------
>
> This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
>
> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address failed:
>
> <‘curl-users@cool.haxx.se’ (http://tinyurl.com/mls39cp)>
>
> — The header of the original message is following. —

Sorry I wasn’t clear - we need more than the headers, usually the message
body gives the reason the message was rejected.

Jim

Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C

On 2013-10-08 20:13, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 18:06:04 +0000, ballsystemlord wrote:
>
>> Code: --------------------
>>
>> This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
>>
>> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
>> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address failed:
>>
>> <‘curl-users@cool.haxx.se’ (http://tinyurl.com/mls39cp)>
>>
>> — The header of the original message is following. —
>
> Sorry I wasn’t clear - we need more than the headers, usually the message
> body gives the reason the message was rejected.

Yep.

And inside code tags, please.

However, I’ll hazard a guess: the address field is incorrect, it
includes an URL link to somewhere. At least that is what it looks like
on the above text.

If I click on it I get this address:


http://tinyurl.com/mls39cp <'curl-users@cool.haxx.se'>

which will not work, I think. The URL should be ignored (it is placed as
“real name” part, but the address itself contains “’” symbols.

The tinyurl gets expanded to:


> http://service.mail.com/callgate-6.72.2.0/rms/6.72.2.0/mail/getBody?folderId=1&messageId=MTImKAG0Wy89KPOpum1uWKRhZqWpBpgu&purpose=display&bodyType=htmlNoExternals

and it does not work, produces a weird page - best I can describe it, sorry.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4, with Evergreen, x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))

I just sent a test message saying “If you get this yell” or something like that because I knew it would be rejected.

As close as I can come to the originals (note plural,) I sent is (not word for word but the same question,)


Subject: On the delegation option

--delegation LEVEL
Set LEVEL to tell the server what it is allowed to delegate when
it comes to user credentials. Used with GSS/kerberos.

none   Don't allow any delegation.

policy Delegates if and only if the OK-AS-DELEGATE flag  is  set
in  the  Kerberos  service  ticket,  which is a matter of
realm policy.

always Unconditionally allow the server to delegate.

What's delegation?
what security considerations?

Subject: On the hostpubmd5 option

--hostpubmd5 <md5>
(SCP/SFTP) Pass a string containing 32 hexadecimal  digits.  The
string  should  be the 128 bit MD5 checksum of the remote host's
public key, curl will refuse the connection with the host unless
the md5sums match.

How can I tell when to use this?


Subject: Fetch particular page in particular language

How do I tell curl what language I'd like the html/xhtml/txt/etc. page in?


Subject: on the no-keepalive option

--no-keepalive
Disables the use of keepalive messages on the TCP connection, as
by default curl enables them.

Why would it help me to disable keepalive?

Subject: On compressed content

--tr-encoding
(HTTP) Request a compressed Transfer-Encoding response using one
of  the  algorithms curl supports, and uncompress the data while receiving it.

--compressed
(HTTP) Request a compressed response using one of the algorithms
curl  supports,  and  save  the  uncompressed document.  If this
option is used and the server  sends  an  unsupported  encoding,
curl will report an error.

What's the difference between the two?
Is curl smart enough to tell when the data, for instance a jpg file, is already compressed and so further compression is unnecessary/unwanted?

Subject: Using hexadecimals in URL

Will curl accept hexadecimals in URL, or will it interpret them literally?
Example:

main%20v1_1b.pdf

I’ll resend them and post the reply’s later as it takes a few hours for them to be sent back.

Did you install it from YaST? There is about nothing to configure, just
which path do you keep mail.

No, I wanted to do it myself.

disable_plaintext_auth = yes

and configure ssl. You have to create a certificate.

Ok, give me a little wile I’ll have to read up on that.

[QUOTE]> On the humorous side, since the connection was closed by a “foreign
> host” I guess that makes me a virus?

Why would that be? That’s common network parlance.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I guessed that, but it’s all new to me (because my computer has never been connected,) so I decided to make a joke.

On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 16:06:02 +0000, ballsystemlord wrote:

> As close as I can come to the originals (note plural,) I sent is (not
> word for word but the same question,)

We need to see the originals. The specific information in the headers
(not guesses as to what it was) is what we need to see in order to help
you.

Jim


Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C

On 2013-10-26 18:06, ballsystemlord wrote:
>
> hendersj;2590023 Wrote:
>>
>> Sorry I wasn’t clear - we need more than the headers, usually the
>> message
>> body gives the reason the message was rejected.
>>
>
> I just sent a test message saying “If you get this yell” or something
> like that because I knew it would be rejected.
>
> As close as I can come to the originals (note plural,) I sent is (not
> word for word but the same question,)

That’s not valid. We need to see the entire rejection message, as is
seen in “View message source”. The real one, not what you remember.
Insert that here inside code tags - the ‘#’ button in the forum editor.

> I’ll resend them and post the reply’s later as it takes a few hours for
> them to be sent back.

Hours? Why?


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 21:58:06 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> Hours? Why?

Possibly a mail server in question retries many times before generating a
bounce message. I’ve seen that before myself.

Jim


Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C

On 2013-10-27 23:22, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 21:58:06 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> Hours? Why?
>
> Possibly a mail server in question retries many times before generating a
> bounce message. I’ve seen that before myself.

Oh… yes, you are right. I have seen that, too. Temporary failure response.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

You know I sent those exact messages, nothing different, and they all went right to the mailing list.