grub no auto update new hard drive

alannsandiego wrote:
> I request that in the future that OpenSuse add a feature enhancement to
> solve this problem with the system repair tool, please.

a feature request here does nothing toward getting it actually in the
stack of requested new features…this is a help forum…

the place to log your request is entered from here:
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Openfate

> If you can do this manually more power to you, but hopefully Novell
> shall provide a feature update to detect new hardware better in the future.

this is not a Novell forum…and you didn’t purchase a Novell product…

here we are about producing and supporting (with volunteers) openSUSE
a free, open source product of this openSUSE Community…

if you wished to use the commercial Novell product (SUSE Enterprise
Linux Desktop [or Server]) you needed to go over to the Novell site:
http://www.novell.com/linux and purchase it there…


DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [posted via NNTP w/openSUSE 10.3]

yes, it turn out this does work! ya! I had a problem with the name of the kernel, did a system repair from install DVD disk, installation, then repair.
repair boot loader again, think the kernel reference was wrong because the new install from the 11.2 DVD is older than my present system.

SUSE correcty found the kernal once the ftab entries corrected, as I stated I did already. Had to manually add XP again, other system, /dev/sda1, no activate, do not verify, +1 and for the floppy, other system, /dev/fd0 , do not verify, +1
But in fact this is a complete solution. I did lose the reference to XEN but then I use VMware 7 anyways.

I am sorry I don’t know what some people complain about, here is a lot of good information, for free. It so funny how much people have complained here, huummm a community? Well instead of complaining you could have helped me?

There is more work to do to fine tune this installation, and whether it is Novell or its new contract stated above, if you buy the Retail box you are entitled to 90 of installation support

If you bought your 11.2 or 11.3 boxed set from openSUSE suse marble ubuntu "linux distribution" "open-slx" then you need to register your boxed set here start Open-SLX
The support numbers and times are found here support Open-SLX

Please note:
open-slx and Novell© signed an agreement about the production and distribution of openSUSE. open-slx is the „authorized Distributor of openSUSE Software“ and takes over the openSUSE Box and the support offering included with openSUSE. The Box itself will be continued in tradition of openSUSE and will keep the name openSUSE.

open-SLX employee: jon dot rocker at open-slx dot de
Beta tester. Running openSUSE Factory.

if the link in my post don’t work, check above ^^^^

It seems that the harddisk was exchanged by a new one and the date of the old disk was just copied to the new disk. So we are talking about a migration and not about an installation. That is an important point, when searching for information. So this case seems to be a migration and is very simular when moving a hard drive to an virtual instance like kvm.

What happens when just doing a plain harddisk copy?

  • the partition table is may be not copied, changed or does not fit to the new disk.
  • grub has a first and second stage loader and will not be work anymore. Needs to be adopted
  • the fstab includes informations about the specific hardware vendor and drive. Needs to be changen to the new disk.
  • In case also other devices were changed like network devices, the network needs to be configured again

This is definitly no bug or misbehaviour of the openSUSE system. It’s more or less a plain maintenance when changing hardware on the system it self. The system in this stage behaves correct, because the mirgration is not finished!

So what can be done in general when migrating:

  • Easiest way. Backup the used data of the system. Reinstall openSUSE. Restore you user-data. Check the user-ids and if does not fit change it in yast.
  • Just copy all data as is to the new disk. Then all parts that depend from this hardware device needs to be adopted to the new one
    • most or sometimes all can be done by the yast repair tool (only for 11.3) delivered with openSUSE installation media
    • the rest or in case preferred needs to be done manually, for example by using the rescue-image of the installation dvd.

I hope this information helps to move forward

Regarding the metrics of the openSUSE 11.2 Box product:

  • The registration can only be done on the open-slx website, because suse-register and the novell links only belong to Novell. So only registration on the open-slx website or registriation via support email to support@open-slx.com will work.
  • This here is a non installation support issue as discribed in the service definition of installation support. Anyway we are happy to give tipps and advice beyond this plain service at our best knowledge on a voluntary base.
  • We know the change from Novell to open-slx has the need to learn some new pathes where to obain help and information. So sometimes the old ways will not work anymore
  • open-slx is very interesting in feedback and we like to improve the openSUSE Product. We are happy to get this feedback.

Best regards,

Stefan Werden

alannsandiego wrote:
> Well instead of complaining you could have helped me?
>
> There is more work to do to fine tune this installation, and whether it
> is Novell or its new contract stated above, if you buy the Retail box
> you are entitled to 90 of installation support

instead of coming here and blasting us with your heat (incorrectly
aimed at Novell but delivered here), you might have instead READ where
your 90 days of support was supposed to come from, and contacted them…

we here are not the ones you bought your 90 days of support from…

but, no matter how you got your install disk (even if downloaded for
free, or from a mag) if you had simply come here and defined your
problem and asked your questions (nicely) like many other thousands
and thousands we would have gladly helped you, for free and for FAR
past the 90 days of support you bought from “open-slx”…

think about how you began here, and how it felt to us unpaid
volunteers who with only a few exceptions are not at all associated
with either Novell or open-slx!

and, if you wanna hang around you are welcome to adjust your attitude
and then ask more questions, for 999 more days, at least.

but, if you wanna be pushy, demanding and demeaning: go find those
folks who you bought from…

just my three cents worth of advice, free to you…

Have a lot of fun!


DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [posted via NNTP w/openSUSE 10.3]

On 2010-07-30 11:36, swerden wrote:
>
> It seems that the harddisk was exchanged by a new one and the date of
> the old disk was just copied to the new disk. So we are talking about a
> migration and not about an installation. That is an important point,
> when searching for information. So this case seems to be a migration and
> is very simular when moving a hard drive to an virtual instance like
> kvm.

Ah! That’s interesting.

> Regarding the metrics of the openSUSE 11.2 Box product:

> - This here is a non installation support issue as discribed in the
> service definition of installation support. Anyway we are happy to give
> tipps and advice beyond this plain service at our best knowledge on a
> voluntary base.

Ha! So he was bulling. Thanks for clarifying the issue, makes me feel better :slight_smile:

> - We know the change from Novell to open-slx has the need to learn some
> new pathes where to obain help and information. So sometimes the old
> ways will not work anymore
> - open-slx is very interesting in feedback and we like to improve the
> openSUSE Product. We are happy to get this feedback.

Best wishes to your venture :slight_smile:


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” GM (Elessar))

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:06:01 +0000, alannsandiego wrote:

> I request that in the future that OpenSuse add a feature enhancement to
> solve this problem with the system repair tool, please.

Enhancement requests are best submitted through openFATE - you can find
that at http://features.opensuse.org - posting them here won’t get them
into the system.

It looks like you got your problem solved, and that is good news.

In addition to the forum Terms and Conditions (linked in my signature),
you may also want to read http://en.opensuse.org/
openSUSE:Communication_channels - this page talks about the different
communications venues and the purposes they serve. Also http://
en.opensuse.org/Portal:Support/Options will have information about
seeking support through various venues, as well as http://en.opensuse.org/
openSUSE:Openfate for information about the feature request system.

Jim


Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C

Well Installation or Migration? hummm mincing words I’d say; This is an installation of a working system on a new hard drive, in my view. I will post the solution without all the chatter later.

The new drive was Initialize by Windows as WD says is required of a new drive, otherwise the drive was blank, before the old image was placed on it. As I have explained many times, the old working system, imaged to the new drive did not work, because of calls by Grub and FSTAB to the old drive by name; in the image placed on the new drive.

Before the image on the new drive will work, one must update the Grub and Fstab, etc. to get the old installation of 11.2 to work on the new drive; maybe a migration from a 150 gb drive to a 300 gb drive. Personally, I like to solve problems; I don’t care who owns what. I posted here for help, sorry if I did not know what the problem was, I did not pick exactly the right sub forum, oh well, I am not prefect.

I like to stick to the problems at hand. If you posted some irrelevant comment and got blasted to bad.

While OpenSuse is open sourced, I think some of your are kidding yourselves, Novell still owns OpenSuse, they have there name on the BOX?

I did blast Novell here, only because it was require, because Novell and even the BOX; each I talked with and read did not provide
a way to register my product and get technical support was move off the Novell web site; were I might add Novell did support 11.1 last year.

I don’t post of forums, I am not a chatter, I solve problems.

I am sorry, about all the chatter here, I re-post the solution without it later.

so that I can save my own post to my drive, under “a system notes” so I can do it again if I need to.

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On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:06:03 +0000, alannsandiego wrote:

> I like to stick to the problems at hand. If you posted some irrelevant
> comment and got blasted to bad.

Please allow me to be clear about something: If you start blasting forum
members, that is not acceptable behaviour. Period.

> While OpenSuse is open sourced, I think some of your are kidding
> yourselves, Novell still owns OpenSuse, they have there name on the BOX?
>
> I did blast Novell here, only because it was require,

No, it is not “required”, and again, if you start blasting people or the
sponsors of the forum, that is not acceptable behaviour.

Follow the forum Terms & Conditions of use, and you’ll be fine. If
people direct you to other places for support or to submit enhancements,
that’s because that’s the best way for you to get what you’re looking
for. Don’t attack them for sending you to a more appropriate place.

Jim

Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at http://tinyurl.com/openSUSE-T-C

hummm, let me be clear, I posted with the hopes of help with my issues.

I am only interested in a discussion of the solutions to the problems.

I am grateful that the solution to registering the product was posted and that the information
on how to get technical support was posted as well. If this information was freely available I would
have never posted at all.

I am to busy to comment on anything else.

finally, it was helpful to learn where to request product enhancements.

I am happy to post my solution, that I had help with from open-SLX employee: jon dot rocker at open-slx dot de
so that you might be helped in the future if you have a similar problem, I hope that is what this forum is for and
about.