On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 03:06 +0000, brunomcl wrote:
> cjcox;2128953 Wrote:
> > I think AMD LOST a LOT of marketshare
> > due to that (not just the fact that Intel decided to “hammer” … if I
> > can say that about Intel… them).
> >
>
> I’d say the loss was mostly due from them not getting in the dual-core
> train on time, after the huge success of the Athlon 64.
Actually is was AMD that was first to dual-core and was the only
time that AMD reached over 15% of server market share AFAIK.
That value would have risen had not Intel ramped up so quickly
with their dual core hack job… which eventually became real
to the point of being more real than anything AMD was doing…
If you recall AMD was also first to announce quad core, but
Intel ended up delivering FIRST (way to go AMD!!!).
The loss was on AMD’s side and it was due initially to Intel
coming back with a vengeance while AMD sat idle… but further
complicated by AMD poking their only good chipset supplier,
Nvidia, in the eye. AMD now pretty much sitting at levels they
were at before the 64bit and dual core revolution (that THEY
started but apparently didn’t want to work at being dominant).
>
> I think that the majority of buyers (i.e., windows) don’t care/know
> what GPU they’re getting, as all three (nvidia, ATI, intel) work well
> enough with the next->next->finish mantra. It’s mostly gamers and
> graphical designers that take notice.
But arguably that “majority” doesn’t really need a PC at all.
Eventually, they’ll all be using appliances (be that media stations,
mobile phones, etc).
Gamers use consoles now. Sad, but true. At least for the majority.
With that said, I find people that have expensive WINDOWS PCs at
home are gamers that ALSO own consoles and use the consoles the
most… it’s almost like their PC’s are strictly for bragging rights…
you know… who has the highest PCMark/3dmark score, etc.
Graphical designers CAN be interesting (usually not though), but
renderers MUCH more so… and then you DO get into server
sensibilities.
IMHO, PC’s sorta belong to just enthusiasts now… the rest are
buying them because they don’t know better (keeping up with the
Jones’). Obviously there is that smaller class of professionals
in graphics, development, administration that might need a good
PC… but I think eventually, we’ll be the only ones with a
PC need.
>
> Current mainstream onboard graphics seem to be more than enough for
> day-to-day use and the occasional game / 3D app at home. In fact, I have
> a couple of nvidia PCI-E cards standing by that I feel no need to use
> anymore (except for multi-monitor setups, but that’s another story :)).
>
>
I mostly agree with this. I do like my Intel 4500MHD… works well
at least with oS 11.1, KDE 4 and compiz.
Gaming on that? No way.
But on Linux, you really don’t need anything more than an old
mid-tier 3d card anyhow and a used 7600GT is about all you need
for gaming under Linux. That’s what I use… and it’ll do
1920x1200 for most of the interesting 3d games (e.g. UT2004,
Half-life 2, etc.). People will often throw out a 7600GT…
watch your neighborhood dumpsters!
