gnome won't boot as non-root user

this is a strange one. running 11.2 pae 32 bit kernel with all the most recent updates and gnome. This is a fresh install. I built the machine, and then installed all my repositories and software, and used the machine for about 2 days, and now when I log in it hangs on logging into gnome. it’s strange because the wireless notification about available wireless networks is in the top left corner of the screen, and nothing else happens. I can log in as root.

I also had this issue before I formatted the machine (that’s why I formatted)

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Also if theres any further information that would be helpful, please let me know.

Hi
Did you keep the existing /home directory structure and user on the
fresh install? If so, what happens if you create a test user.


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
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Hi
Did you keep the existing /home directory structure and user on the
fresh install? If so, what happens if you create a test user.

no. this occurs to any non-root user

Can you login with icewm

i don’t have it installed. i’m logged into gnome as root right now though.

Normally it is there by default, when you login, look at the sessions
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pcB-0ZjlP4s-FNDicsO0IppxHVPN7mzFDfKumWBLLBu8FUuW841R9lunQK274BrHkFD7OLwm0V9Fptg4BlQDIMw/session.type.png

Hi
Ok, canyou logout as root, press ctrl+alt+F1 to get to the console
login. Login as your USER, then;


su -
init 3 && exit

You should be back as your user, then;


startx

Any better?


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
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icewm doesn’t work, but kde does ( i didn’t realize these were installed by default now even if you select gnome as your window manager )

yes, this worked! logging in under runlevel 3 works,

icewm and gnome don’t work for non-root users in runlevel 5
also, i can login as a non-root user in KDE under runlevel 5

what does this mean? how do i fix it?

I’ll see if @malcolmlewis can assist you first because he is a gnome user but it’ll be his bed time soonrotfl!

@caf4926 at least an hour or so… Slacker!! :wink:

@risentech so KDE is working fine, I’m wondering if its the metacity
bug. Have a read of this thread;
http://forums.opensuse.org/install-boot-login/431506-help-my-suse11-2-login-gnome-only-show-wallpaper.html


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 11.2 (i586) Kernel 2.6.31.8-0.1-desktop
up 5 days 9:47, 3 users, load average: 0.08, 0.12, 0.11
ASUS eeePC 1000HE ATOM N280 1.66GHz | GPU Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME

is metacity in icewm as well because it’s broken too. (although i’ve never tried to log into it before now, so it might be broken for unrelated reasons.)

reading the thread now, sounds like my exact symptoms.

well that fixed it.

i can’t believe i reformatted when i could have just downgraded metacity! it happened after a huge update pack… anyway hopefully they’ll fix it. If anyone knows when they’ve fixed the update, reply to this thread, that way I know I can let that update through on my systems.

Hi
Glad you have it functional again. I would keep an eye on the bug
555027 as that will give you a better picture (you can always add your
experience to it :wink: ).


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
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GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - CUDA Driver Version: 190.53

Figured it might be that - Well done Malcolm;)

risentech wrote:

> i can’t believe i reformatted when i could have

a word to the wise: Linux is a very stable and predictable operating
system…that is to say, given the same conditions (good install,
good upgrade back to the same state) you can expect the SAME system…

that is, if you ‘suddenly’ can’t log in (or out, or browse or
whatever) if you start over and get to the same state you should
EXPECT the same fault…

now, i know SOME operating systems begin their repairs with a fresh
install…

this ain’t that system…it may well have killed itself in its overly
fragile ‘registry’ or whatever…

here you should never expect a reboot or reinstall to fix
anything…instead you should expect it to replicate the existing
condition…

now, there is an exception (always) if the USER did something that
killed the system then a reboot and or reinstall may fix the problem
for a while…UNTIL the user makes the same mistake again…

which brings me to: do NOT log into Gnome or KDE as root…as far as i
know there is no documented case where that is required [for
example, Malcom Lewis had you log out as root FIRST, and THEN proceeded]

read more here:
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Login_as_root
http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/userguide/root.html
http://tinyurl.com/6ry6yd
http://tinyurl.com/ydbwssh

yes, i know you were just trying to see if root could log in…but,
what did you learn…did you fix it…did it add to your knowledge
about what the fault was…or lead you to a solution…etc, etc, etc


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