I have a System76 Lemur Ultra Thin (lemu4) notebook PC and I use OpenSuSE 64 bit Tumblweed. I posted a thread in the Tumblweed sub-forum, but I have some specific questions about GNOME:
Does anyone here use GNOME 3.6.2? If so, then do you have problems unlocking a locked screen? I keep getting an error in the GNOME desktop environment after trying to unlock my screen after a couple of minutes and it tells me something went wrong and I have to log out and log back in. I don’t know what is causing this problem. I tried to downgrade the gnome-screensaver package to 3.4.2, but it still does not work.
How do I update and upgrade the GNOME repository? I am a bit confused here and I set the GNOME Tumblweed repository priority to 98 in YaST 2. I do a zypper ref, zypper up, and zypper dup to do updates and upgrades. I also did a zypper patch, but it keeps telling me that I have software package conflicts and I don’t know how to resolve them. Let me know if I should post the output here or in my Tumblweed thread to get more help.
How do you get GNOME 3.6.2 to work with OpenSuSE 64 bit Tumblweed? It seems most of the stuff works, but the unlocking of the lock screen keeps failing. What else should I look out for?
On 2012-11-25 01:06, wellywu wrote:
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> I have a System76 Lemur Ultra Thin (lemu4) notebook PC and I use
> OpenSuSE 64 bit Tumblweed. I posted a thread in the Tumblweed sub-forum,
> but I have some specific questions about GNOME:
Ok.
> 2. How do I update and upgrade the GNOME repository? I am a bit
> confused here and I set the GNOME Tumblweed repository priority to 98 in
> YaST 2. I do a zypper ref, zypper up, and zypper dup to do updates and
> upgrades. I also did a zypper patch, but it keeps telling me that I have
> software package conflicts and I don’t know how to resolve them. Let me
> know if I should post the output here or in my Tumblweed thread to get
> more help.
That one is a specific tumbleweed question. There is only one officially
recommended update method for tumbleweed, which is always dup, but some
people differ from this, specially when you have specialized repos like
you do.
> 3. How do you get GNOME 3.6.2 to work with OpenSuSE 64 bit Tumblweed?
> It seems most of the stuff works, but the unlocking of the lock screen
> keeps failing. What else should I look out for?
That one is also a question for the tumbleweed forum.
Only your first question can be generic - and I will not answer because
I refuse to use gnome 3.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))
I downgraded to GNOME 3.4.2. Everything works right out of the box as expected. I tried to make GNOME 3.6.x work on OpenSuSE 12.2 64 bit and Tumbleweed, but it just does not work properly yet. I guess that I will have to wait until OpenSuSE 12.3 64 bit is released in March 2013 for it to work properly.
I haven’t tried Tumbleweed, but here’s my experience with vanilla openSUSE 12.2 (GNOME 3.4) vs. the GNOME 3.6 stable repo (which the Tumbleweed repo is probably similar to).
Problems with 3.4 (since you’ve gone back):
gdm sometimes rejects all valid log-in attempts until you restart your computer. I haven’t seen anybody else complain about it, and it hasn’t happened to me recently, but it was annoying enough to make me try several other distros. =/ Hope this doesn’t happen to you.
Evolution 3.4.x sucks BAD compared to 3.2.x and 3.6.x. If you run into the problem where your read messages are marked as unread, uncheck “Listen for server change notifications.” If you have the problem where it eats all of your settings every couple of days, try disabling all of your GNOME Online Accounts emails and configuring them in Evolution manually (might not help, haven’t tested it enough yet).
Frankly, I’d only “upgrade” to 3.6 if you run into issues with 3.4 (such as those). Staying on the vanilla Tumbleweed is also (possibly - I don’t use it) a fine option - it should be getting GNOME 3.6 within the next couple of weeks.
Problems with 3.6, any of these may or may not be resolved by now, or they could affect the GNOME stable repo but not Tumbleweed… I don’t know.
Somebody had a problem where System Settings crashed whenever opened - I’ve never run into that.
I had a problem where changing the sound level in System Settings resulted in a crash.
It takes significantly longer to boot and log in (openSUSE problem).
It hangs for one minute on shutdown/logoff before it begins to shutdown/logoff (openSUSE problem). If this happens to you, fix it by removing virtualbox-guest-tools, virtualbox-guest-x11, vmware-guest-kmp-desktop, and ndiswrapper… provided you don’t need any of them.
So I know that answered zero of your questions, but you gave the thread a generic title. Maybe that’ll help if you run into any of that once you get it working.
P.S. The biggest openSUSE GNOME problem is yast-gtk, which is simply unacceptable: I’ve no idea how this **** made it into 12.1, and it’s even worse in 12.2. But that’s kind of separate from 3.4 vs. 3.6, it’s more of a “is openSUSE suitable for GNOME” issue. (In all other respects, definitely! But yast-gtk is such a very serious fail…)
By the way, which repo were you using: GNOME:STABLE:3.6 or openSUSE:Tumbleweed:GNOME ?
The first one is a stable repo for 12.2 without Tumbleweed. It will conflict with Tumbleweed.
The second one is a testing ground for getting 3.6 ready for Tumbleweed proper. I suspect that it’s not yet stable. If it were ready, it’d have reached the main Tumbleweed repo. (This will probably happen in the next couple of weeks, I would guess.)
You ran in to similar issues when you were playing with kde in tumbleweed. IIRC you were given similar advice there about sticking with tumbleweed + TW packman and leave it at that.
The stock tumbleweed
The stock 12.2 kde
The stock 12.2 gnome all work brilliantly
I have 12.2 with kde 4.9.3 running rock solid
And 12.2 with Gnome 3.6 running very well (but not IMO entirely perfect)
On 2012-11-25 05:16, wellywu wrote:
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> I was using OpenSUSE:Tumbleweed:GNOME, but it failed to work properly. I
> will wait a few weeks and GNOME 3.6.x should be added to Tumbleweed.
That would happen after it reaches factory.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))
On 2012-11-25 19:56, MargueriteSu wrote:
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> robin_listas;2506310 Wrote:
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>> …I will not answer because I refuse to use gnome 3.
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> cool! that’s the right way to use GNOME.
I’ll answer questions related to gnome 2, but not 3. I abandoned gnome
at V3 and switched to XFCE instead. The devs forced me out.
Do you like this answer better?
(similarly KDE 4)
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” (Minas Tirith))
I actually do like GNOME 3.4.4 better than K Desktop Environment 4.9.3. It’s simpler and easier to use. It’s more modern and it integrates online accounts, messages, and notifications right into the desktop environment. I used to hate GNOME with a passion, but that was when I was using it with Ubuntu 12.10 64 bit. It was dog slow and it crashed on occasion. OpenSuSE 64 bit Tumbleweed is much more stable than Ubuntu 12.10 64 bit and GNOME 3.4.4 is quite nice. I think that I will play around with it for this upcoming week to see how I like it. If I really do like it, then I will make the switch permanently.
Does anyone know when GNOME 3.6.x will be added to Tumbleweed?
Does anyone know when GNOME 3.6.x will be added to Tumbleweed?
That there has been so much grumbling about 3.6, I doubt there will be a rush job on that
Maybe that’ll help if you run into any of that once you get it working.