After Fuduntu decided the end-of-life due to some reasons (*1) they are possibly changing to a distro on openSUSE base.
The Future of Fuduntu - My Linux Rig
*1: http://www.fuduntu.org/blog/2013/04/15/fuduntu-team-meeting-held-on-april-14-2013/
Cool. If this is successful then it is bound to steer a siezeable crowd into openSUSE project. They seem to be aiming at becoming downstream for Tumbleweed or something as they seem to be talking about a rolling release?
Why aren’t there more distros using openSUSE as their base? Well, whatever the reason, it seems to me to be an excellent idea, and I hope this happens.
On 04/22/2013 08:26 PM, vazhavandan wrote:
> steer a siezeable crowd into openSUSE project.
i know lots of folks wanna talk about “market share” and apparently
the advertising/PR team is doing a better and better job of herding
folks into the fold…BUT, my opinion is: before we get another
sizable crowd (like those jumping off the Good Ships Win8 and Ubuntu
and into here for the last months) we need to figure out how to get
all the helpers needed to provide friendly help to all these folks
new to openSUSE…
personally, i’ve pretty much stopped trying to help anyone who is
just looking to change the LOOKS of the DE, or who obviously has not
looked at any doc for more then 15 second…and, total time in all
directives, manuals, documentation, hints, wiki articles, etc amounts
to less than 5 minutes–total!
obviously ymmv!
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dd
> personally, i’ve pretty much stopped trying to help anyone who is
> just looking to change the LOOKS of the DE, or who obviously has not
> looked at any doc for more then 15 second…and, total time in all
> directives, manuals, documentation, hints, wiki articles, etc amounts
> to less than 5 minutes–total!
As long as they don’t come in here trying to ‘ubuntuize’ SUSE.
There’s a reason SUSE isn’t like Ubuntu. Adapt or go away.
Resistence is futile.
Thats a good point, looking at the steam for Linux forums I am worried though.
Some ubuntu users have even very little basic computer knowledge.
My Mother-in-law is one 
Luckily (?) she has me at hand to help when the browser has “lost” her passwords…
I think as long as openSUSE is upstream there would be no issue of ubuntuizing. I would encourage them to feel free and ubuntusize,fedorize,debianize etc.They might contribute to openSUSE to fix errors upstream.
I dont get the issue of “ubuntuizeing” especially when Ubuntu itself is very recognized unlike SUSE these days
> I dont get the issue of “ubuntuizeing” especially when Ubuntu itself is
> very recognized unlike SUSE these days
Windows is very recognized as well. Maybe they should strive
to be “somewhere between Windows and Ubuntu”?
By ‘ubuntuize’ I mean strip out any semblence of a rounded multi-purpose
OS with multiple entry points that doesn’t require different distros for a
given desktop or purpose. Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Fuduntu, Noobuntu, Doh!buntu,
Xubuntu. Frankly, it’s a bit tiring.
You see the labor involved in these forums and get defensive, this is typical from what I have observed here over several months. What you might want to think about is the number of new developers/interns/volunteers this may bring to openSUSE and KDE and etc… I do not really care about market share either but if it makes more applications or KDE more useful then I am all for it.
The bigger the number of interested people, the better the development. It is obvious I am sorry. The more people involved the code gets better and you have less problems except for noobs.
@dd The noobs will never end, no end of dumb questions, I know I make them all the time.
On 04/24/2013 01:56 AM, anika200 wrote:
> You see the labor involved in these forums and get defensive, this is
> typical from what I have observed here over several months. What you
> might want to think about is the number of new
> developers/interns/volunteers this may bring to openSUSE and KDE and
> etc… I do not really care about market share either but if it makes
> more applications or KDE more useful then I am all for it.
i see i was not clear.
it seems you think i do not want new folks to come to
openSUSE…but, that was NOT my point…instead:
-i want hundreds of thousands of new users
-BUT, i think we need to be prepared to better support the influx
-even the modest influx flowing in as a result of Ubuntu switching to
Unity, or the release of Win8, or pending FINAL death of XP, or
Fuduntu vacillating is taxing the helpers here…
and when i said i had stopped helping folks (say) change their
desktop background…that was not because i have become “defensive”
or that i don’t wanna see more new folks…FAR from it…instead i
expect/hope that the NEW folks i helped last year, and the year
before, and the year before that, who can not yet answer some of the
questions that the more experienced here can…well, i hope they
WILL jump in and help the even newer change their background…or
find the manual…or just understand what is meant by “open a
terminal”, or . . .
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dd
These are the openSUSE forums. SUSE is another story. Search Google, read and you’ll see that SUSE Linux has become a very recognized major player in an amazing number of areas.
On topic: I think they going on like they did is not an option. Canonical is developping stuff behind (semi-)closed doors, a distro like Fuduntu needs a truely open base to build on.
Hey, I deleted that post??? My tone was way off on that post so I canned it, I donno how it is still here. Magic I guess. I see your point and agree.
On 04/24/2013 01:16 PM, anika200 wrote:
>
> DenverD;2550546 Wrote:
>> On 04/24/2013 01:56 AM, anika200 wrote:
>>> You see the labor involved in these forums and get defensive, this is
>>> typical from what I have observed here over several months. What you
>>> might want to think about is the number of new
>>> developers/interns/volunteers this may bring to openSUSE and KDE and
>>> etc… I do not really care about market share either but if it
>> makes
>>> more applications or KDE more useful then I am all for it.
>>
>> i see i was not clear.
>>
>> it seems you think i do not want new folks to come to
>> openSUSE…but, that was NOT my point…instead:
>>
>> -i want hundreds of thousands of new users
>>
>> -BUT, i think we need to be prepared to better support the influx
>>
>> -even the modest influx flowing in as a result of Ubuntu switching to
>> Unity, or the release of Win8, or pending FINAL death of XP, or
>> Fuduntu vacillating is taxing the helpers here…
>>
>> and when i said i had stopped helping folks (say) change their
>> desktop background…that was not because i have become “defensive”
>> or that i don’t wanna see more new folks…FAR from it…instead i
>> expect/hope that the NEW folks i helped last year, and the year
>> before, and the year before that, who can not yet answer some of the
>> questions that the more experienced here can…well, i hope they
>> WILL jump in and help the even newer change their background…or
>> find the manual…or just understand what is meant by “open a
>> terminal”, or . . .
>>
>> –
>> dd
>
> Hey, I deleted that post??? My tone was way off on that post so I
> canned it, I donno how it is still here. Magic I guess. I see your point
> and agree.
hmmmmm…i didn’t think your tone “was way off”…and, i hope you
didn’t think i responded in a harsh way…i did not…not one angry
word in my reply…just facts.
magic, no…it is called nntp…you wrote into http and the ‘gateway’
pushed it to nntp…which is a place you can’t delete from…
i can delete my nntp posts, but you can’t delete your http>nntp posts
don’t worry, be happy.
Have a lot of fun.
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dd
That is not fair >:)
Hi
They can be removed on the nntp side, but if an nntp user has synced there system it will be in their cache… for anyone syncing after it’s deleted on the nntp side won’t see it…
I just found out about an openSUSE fork.
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Comeon Fuduntu ,bring us a billion users already