I found a post about this for 42.1 but the help link some one posted is out of date but the link to Adobe’s page to obtain the plugin was much better than any other I have found. I shows 2 versions. The others I have seen are browser specific and some pages didn’t work. The page with the versions is this one.
This is the 2nd time I have installed as I messed up the other with yast patterns. I did manage to get all browsers I loaded to play flash video on any site on the first install but not sure how. Currently I have firefox working but others start downloading the video on some sites rather than playing it. Konqueror just refuses to work with the plugin. The error message suggests that it will work with the version that includes a manifest.
I’m just wondering if installing both rpm’s from adobe will sort this out or if I need to do something else as well. I don’t fancy another install. The rpm’s look to install to user/lib64/flash-plugin. One is libpepflashplayer and the other is plain old libflashplayer and also includes kcm_adobe_flash_player installed to kde4. There is also a setup and homecleanup but Id guess I would best to the clean up myself.
Currently my user/lib64/browser-plugins has libflashplayer and libfreshwrapper-flashplayer in it. That maybe why firefox is working but installing the rpm’s might allow that to work without it. Or will it ?
I always use more than one browser so want a set up where any will work.
I would just install it from Packman, which you need for full multimedia support anyway.
The plugin itself is exactly the same anyway, as it is a binary blob.
There is a npapi and ppapi version.
Yes. The ppapi “version” is for Chromium, the npapi “version” is for Firefox and other browsers that use Netscape plugins.
There should be no problem to have both installed.
This is the 2nd time I have installed as I messed up the other with yast patterns. I did manage to get all browsers I loaded to play flash video on any site on the first install but not sure how. Currently I have firefox working but others start downloading the video on some sites rather than playing it. Konqueror just refuses to work with the plugin. The error message suggests that it will work with the version that includes a manifest.
Konqueror should be able to use the same plugins as Firefox.
Maybe it is a configuration issue?
I.e. Konqueror doesn’t look in the path that Adobe’s package installs the plugin to?
Have a look in its settings.
It should work fine out-of-the-box with the Packman packages though, it does here.
Maybe you’d need to explicitly click on “Search for plugins” in the settings though.
I got into a hell of a mess using the packman repositories some time ago that you guided me out of wolfe but I could enable them and from what you say just search for flash players and install them ??? Correct?
I can clean out the players that are installed but will move the firefox ones just in case
I can then disable the repo. Just in case.
I usually get round the multimedia problems with vlc from source and try the same with other apps as well.
I tried the adobe one with a manifest - the manifest isn’t acceptable to chromium. Opera comes up with player out of date.
(that will enable full multimedia support for all packages that are “crippled” in openSUSE for legal reasons, it could also be done via YaST but that’s harder to describe in words… )
Afterwards, or right away if you did add Packman earlier already, just install flash-player and flash-player-ppapi (but before do remove the Adobe repo and the already installed flash-player):
sudo zypper in flash-player flash-player-ppapi
It should work then.
I usually get round the multimedia problems with vlc from source and try the same with other apps as well.
You shouldn’t have to.
The vlc from Packman should work just fine too and include all codecs.
(actually the vlc included in openSUSE works fine too but it doesn’t include non-free codecs for legal reasons, as mentioned above)
Thanks Wolfi. That has sorted all of them out except for Konq. It looks to be insisting on HTML5 and not working even on youtube. It does show the flash plugin in it’s list.
Which bowser I use most is usually dependent on how easy it is to bookmark. They have all changes since my previous opensuse which was 12.3.
Youtube does use HTML5 only since a while (although there is a Firefox extension to force it back to Flash).
And QtWebKit (which Konqueror uses as HTML rendering engine by default) uses gstreamer to play back HTML5 content.
So you may just miss an appropriate gstreamer plugin.
Make sure you have gstreamer-plugins-bad-orig-addons, gstreamer-plugins-ugly-orig-addons and gstreamer-plugins-libav installed.
I did have the youtube flash plugin installed and wondered if removing that had caused konq problems. I put it back in though and no change.
The suggested additions have more or less fixed it. Only a problem on a dubious site. Couldn’t advance the video, none of the controls functioned and the play button remained in the middle of the view. From previous error messages suspect this site uses HTML5 when Konq connects to it. No problem with other browsers. Porn site though so no loss to me anyway.
Konq can be set to use webkit. No good at all with the kde one.
Konqueror cannot use Firefox addons/extensions, which is something completely different than browser plugins like flash-player.
Konq can be set to use webkit. No good at all with the kde one.
Yes, KHTML is very outdated and not really up to todays standards.
WebKit is used by default though if installed.
Btw:
WebKit is actually based on KHTML. Apple ported KHTML to MacOS years ago to use it in their Safari browser, and developed it further under the name “WebKit”. At some point later on, the improved version was released as open source, and it came back to KDE as QtWebKit and Konqueror’s kwebkitpart (but it’s also used e.g. by rekonq or GNOME’s epiphany).
Interestingly, Google did something similar years later: they forked WebKit (they called it “Blink”) and use their “improved”/changed version in Chrome and Chromium. It also has been added to Qt5 as alternative/replacement for QtWebKit, and a “webenginepart” that uses it is included in the latest Konqueror 16.12 (kwebkitpart and KHTML are still available too though).
One of the things Google changed is the plugin interface. They dropped the old NPAPI (“Netscape Plugins”) and invented the new PPAPI (“Pepper”), so the old plugins do not work any more.
Current Opera versions do use “Blink” as well, i.e. Opera now uses the same rendering engine as Chrome and Chromium (which also means that you’d need flash-player-ppapi for it).
I’m not sure Konq will ever get back to the standard that was available with KDE3 and even 2. I hardly ever used anything else and laughed when everyone on windows started raving about tabbed browsing. Opera and Chromium are nagging for kwallet use now even though I have set it to not store passwords. :sarcastic: When I clicked ok to get rid of the nag it couldn’t find a key. Opera has lost it’s wonderful bookmarking and seems to be too like some of the others now. Having had to stop using the version I used on 12.3 I was looking forwards to having that back. SeaMonkey’s not too bad but can’t create folders on the fly.
As to various web engines I feel there are too many software engineers looking for things to do / change and sometimes doing it badly also I suspect encroaching on what is available is the software that’s under the desktop and making us use it before they have equally adequate software. I’d guess this is why a lot of people seem to be shifting to simpler desktops.
:’(Anyhow I know have a couple of other problems so best switch to those.
Or will it ?
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