Well that’s good news. It sounds like you solved. I’m not entirely sure why there would ever be a .mozilla in root?
Any way, problem solved. Well done to you.
On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 10:56:02 +0530, caf4926
<caf4926@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
> I’m not entirely sure
> why there would ever be a .mozilla in root?
because he ran firefox as root, most likely. explaining why things didn’t
work as they’re supposed to.
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phani.
On 10/20/2011 07:06 AM, imterpsfan2 wrote:
> deleting the .mozilla folders in both my regular account and in root
wait! there should not be a .mozilla folder in the root directory!!
the only way for there to be one is if you logged into the desktop GUI
as root…something you should not do! it could be the root cause of
all the little unexplainable problems you are having that the helpers
here can’t figure out (because they can not duplicate your systems
problems)…
you should never log into KDE/Gnome/XFCE or any other *nix-like system’s
graphical user interface desktop environment as root…
doing so 1) opens you up to several different security problems if you
(for example) browse the net, 2) too many, far too easy ways to damage
your system no matter how careful your actions (for example: well
documented cases of unintended change of ownership of ~/.ICEauthority
and ~/.Xauthority from user to root sometimes occurs), 3) anyway logging
into KDE/etc as root is never required to do any and all
administrative duties, 4) and, not even logging in as root just to see
if it works as root is useful, because the “yes” or “no” learned is
almost always totally useless in finding the problem giving the
symptoms…while, logging into the GUI as root to learn the yes/no could
cause the next adverse symptom encountered.
so, always log in as yourself, and “become root” by using a root powered
application (like YaST, File Manager Superuser Mode) or using “su -”,
sudo, kdesu, or gnomesu in a terminal to launch whatever tool is needed
(like Kwrite to edit a config file)…read more on all that here:
http://tinyurl.com/593e4c
http://tinyurl.com/ydbwssh
http://tinyurl.com/6bo2cqg
http://tinyurl.com/4nsaqst
http://tinyurl.com/665h5ek
http://tinyurl.com/6ry6yd
additionally: after logging into KDE/Gnome/etc as root, if you
experience problems (for example, with uncommanded file ownership and
permissions changes) and if you can provide us with details of what you
were doing while you were logged in as root, that would help us identify
if there’s a bug that needs to be fixed…thanks for your help…
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DD
http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems
On 2011-10-20 07:26, caf4926 wrote:
> why there would ever be a .mozilla in root?
Only when you log in as root and use mozilla. And no, this is not used by
any other user using mozilla.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
Only when you log in as root and use mozilla. And no, this is not used by
any other user using mozilla.
because he ran firefox as root, most likely. explaining why things didn’t
work as they’re supposed to.
My comment was Irony
Believe it or not, I actually know why.
On 2011-10-20 10:16, caf4926 wrote:
> My comment was Irony
Use smileys >:-)
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
Just cast this off as a Dumb American trying to use technology I don’t mind being viewed as dumb. It just means I have a lot to learn. I probably couldn’t tell anyone else how to use anything technology wise but most Americans don’t even know what Linux is.
But I’m not convinced this had anything to do with root. The problems occurred when I was logged on as the regular user, not root. I do not normally log on as root. What could have very well resolved it was deleting the .mozilla folder in my local account as well as firefox, mozilla folders elsewhere.
Anyway, as often is the case, I struggled, I clawed, etc to resolve the issue, sometimes staying up very late at night to do it.
If I were really smart, these things probably wouldn’t be happening and I wouldn’t be staying up late at night resolving simple issues other people could fix in 5 minutes
On 10/20/2011 03:16 PM, imterpsfan2 wrote:
>
> Just cast this off as a Dumb American
hmmm…it is not a matter of ‘dumb’ or not…and, it is not a matter of
nationality either…
the problem is we can’t tell what the exact problem is…but, we with
some experience in the system know that logging into the GUI as root
is one way to set up a whole string of little irritating problems
which are difficult to troubleshoot and more difficult to correct…
the reason i know it is a problem is because i killed my Linux system
doing it…over ten years ago…
> But I’m not convinced this had anything to do with root. The problems
> occurred when I was logged on as the regular user, not root.
yep…that is the problem…the damage was done while logged in as root
and it is just dang difficult to know what was damaged and how…but, a
pretty sure way to know it was caused by logging into the GUI as root is
the fact that strange stuff happens while logged in as the normal user…
> I do not normally log on as root.
the problem there is that it is possible to kill a smooth running system
in one session logged into KDE/Gnome etc as root.
> If I were really smart, these things probably wouldn’t be happening and
> I wouldn’t be staying up late at night resolving simple issues other
> people could fix in 5 minutes
you may be able to get back to a smooth running system…you may
not…it is hard to tell…
some folks eventually do a format install and not log into the GUI as
root again…i didn’t have to do that because i had only spoiled some
files in my /home…
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DD
http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat
http://tinyurl.com/DD-Hardware
http://tinyurl.com/DD-Software
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems
Right, it has nothing to do with being American. It just has everything to do with intelligence and common sense.
But I’m glad there are people much smarter than me on these forums that I can turn to for answers.
On 10/20/2011 04:26 PM, imterpsfan2 wrote:
>
> Right, it has nothing to do with being American. It just has everything
> to do with intelligence and common sense.
i hate to disagree with you but it also has nothing to do with either
intelligence nor common sense…i say that because the most intelligent
being on the planet has probably used an operating system in which it is
a common practice to log into the windowing GUI as the Administrator to
perform administrative tasks…
that that intelligent person’s common sense tells him/her that the same
work practice is sound in Linux, BSD, AIX and all the other Unix-like
operating systems is just about a given…
it is not a matter of dumb, or intelligence or common sense…just a
matter of education and awareness…
> But I’m glad there are people much smarter than me on these forums that
> I can turn to for answers.
smarter i don’t know…more experienced yes.
welcome…lots to learn here…
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DD
http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat
http://tinyurl.com/DD-Hardware
http://tinyurl.com/DD-Software
openSUSE®, the “German Automobiles” of operating systems