Hi all,
Very strange behavior with my openSUSE 11.1 setup. Youtube videos play perfectly, however, sites like yourporn and pornhub.com stutter and jitter with movie playback. Anyway to correct this?
Thanks.
I couldn’t possibly even visit sites like that to comment and it would be better not to mention them here really - without prejudice of course.
Have you tried different browsers?
I didn’t ask opinions on porn from the moral minority. I simply notice an issue that has affected not only 11.1 but I had this problem with 11.0. It manifests itself in all browsers. This is the only issue I am having with with the OS and I would like to correct it. I shouldn’t have to keep Windows around to surf porn.
I shouldn’t have to keep Windows around to surf porn.
I agree;)
I said without prejudice.
Maybe someone else will take a look. I have no issues with Flash
caf4926
Never mind those sites, I get the same poor performance with streaming video using the BBC iPlayer on my 11.1 with firefox. It’s like watching a slide show rather than video and it affects lip-synching with audio. I removed the libflashsupport package (for pulseaudio among others) and it improved but not far enough.
As you don’t have this problem, did you remove any pulseaudio packages? I believe some elsewhere in this forum suggested doing this as the interaction with alsa is not good enough yet. However I have no problems with amarok for normal audio, and none with video players kaffeine, and s/mplayer, with offline video. Any suggestions would be appreciated?
If there is no problem with local files, the problem may be with the streaming or the flash codec you’re using. If you download the flash it plays normally? Did you disable IPv6? Do you have sufficient bandwidth?
That’s all that occurs to me right now.
I use the bbc iplayer all the time. The only thing I have against it is they prevent caching. Playback is fine even at the HQ option. My UK ADSL MAX is very good.
I don’t use pulseaudio at all and I doubt that is causing the problem, though I would welcome to be proved wrong if it solves your issue.
It is strange that it only happens on certain sites. But does it make any difference if say like with the bbc - you are watching Fullscreen or NOT? Much of the Flash video we watch is done in the default viewer on the page - making it bigger usually just makes it look too crappy. I know the bbc have had complaints relating to Fullscreen and or HQ view.
You didn’t mention your video details. This would be the area I would focus on I think. Up to recently, I had been using _64 bit OS. But not now. I had been experiencing poor jerky play (incl. the bbc) in Flash, rather like you describe. No such issues with 32 bit.
brunomcl, grateful for your thoughts. I am on my 10.3 partition right now where flash and the streaming iPlayer work very well - as smooth as local video. I use the same hardware for that and 11.1.
With iPlayer, I don’t believe you can download for local play on linux, and the subsequent post from caf4926 (very interesting stuff) seems to confirm it with “they prevent caching”.
IPV6 disabled? Aha! Yes on 10.3, but not sure on 11.1 but will go check now. I may not have disabled it as browsing permormance was good OOTB on 11.1. I will come back on this and reply to caf4926 from 11.1 system.
Bandwidth? 8-10mb/sec. The exchange is across the road from here, and I guess that should be fast enough.
Thanks again
IPV6 disabled? Not disabled on my 11.1. So I disabled it in firefox config, but it made no visible difference to the jerky BBC iPlayer.
Right-clicking on the streaming video gives this info:
“Bitrate: 512kbps (128kbps) | Codec: vp6 (MP3)” - is that normal?
What you see from right click looks OK, but it will always depend on how it was encoded (MP3, AAC etc…)
Same hardware yes, but probably different driver ie; (nvidia, ATI)??
I mentioned before your video might be a point to look at. I was having trouble with nvidia in 11.1 - actually that has gone now, but I’m using Fedora 10 now on that Box, the change was related to other issues though. But Flash works fine in F10.
And you can now install BBC iPlayer in Linux
Click on the Download Button, (must be using FFox)
You should get to a installer.
Have not tried it myself.
I can tell what is the problem with that, it’s not Flash nor Firefox problem. Just let it cache a bit of the movie and everything will play well.
This is really annoying and enough for me to scrap plans of using this notebook as a dedicated openSUSE device. I can stream from CNN just fine. Youtube is just fine. It really pisses me off that the streaming is not consistent in that I should be able to go to ANY site and stream content from my browser (firefox). I noticed, with regard to yourporn and pornhub.com, that prior to the video playing I hear a weird noise first, then play which is jerky but then is fine for a few seconds of play then jerky, then fine and so on.
Does anyone have any idea of how to correct this issue? This is basic usage of a computer…to surf the web. I am not looking for help with niche audio recording or making videos, just basic stuff here folks. This should not be the hassle it is.
I told You what is the solution, it is not a BUG of some sort, it’s simply that some settings on the flash site will stop playing the flash content until there is enough cache (couple of seconds or something like that), some will not forbid that and that’s the reason it stutters. It’s completely fine and you can’t do anything else about it but wait a bit until it’ll cache a bit.
Thanks for your interesting posts. I was considering the first when this second one arrived and will cover both here.
My iPlayer experience on 10.3 has been good, also with fine HQ playback and Fullscreen looking too crappy. On 11.1, that would make it even worse than it is.
I know this might not be the problem, and PulseAudio support is not enabled in my YaST>Hardware>Sound, but packages are installed on 11.1 presumably by default. Did you have to remove any packages in order to achieve your “I don’t use pulseaudio at all”??
You are probably on the right track focusing on my video details. I tried to avoid straying too far from the OP’s problem and hijacking the thread. However, different versions of the video driver are used on my 10.3 and 11.1. To support the onboard chip, the openchrome driver is easily the best one available. Well into the 10.3 cycle, a version of openchrome finally turned up on the OBS in a drivers repo - still very stable and in use on my 10.3. Unfortunately a shadowy figure removed it from the OBS a month ago, leaving only a newer version (for 10.3 and 11.1) in an anonymous user’s repo, that I have installed on 11.1. I could try this newer version on 10.3 to see if the driver is the problem, but I cannot now obtain the original 10.3 rpm to reinstall it, so better not!
Other details: openSUSE 11.1 (i586); Linux 2.6.27.7-9-pae i686; KDE 3.5.10
To install iPlayer in linux: What Download Button? Couldn’t see it on the iPlayer (using FFox). I did see something about it earlier today described as coming soon for linux and only available now in a test Lab.
Btw, good to see your MM howto in the read-only section of the forum. I used it as a checklist for 11.1, but have always followed oldcpu’s 4-repo advice, with no 1-click, and additional stuff from packman. Never really had a MM problem before on 10.1, 10.2, and 10.3 doing that.
Didn’t know you could disable it in firefox, I did it by going to Yast>Network Devices>Setup>Global Options and uncheck the Enable IPv6 checkbox.
How then do you explain the stuttering even after the whole movie is played out and already loaded then you play again?
BBR I appreciate the help but I don’t buy into your reasoning. The point is the same computer running both XP and Win 7 doesn’t display these issues and neither should it running openSUSE. This is THAT pain in the ass that I am simply cannot use this OS full time like I had originally planned to. Again, I am not looking to do something wacky or off-the-wall. This is simple use of the web and any OS should accommodate out of the box (so to speak).
This is horse ****. >:)
In Firefox’s address bar type: about:config
Accept the motherhood message it displays, then
In the Filter bar type: ipv6
Right-click on the line beginning network.dns.disableIPv6,and select Toggle to make it “true”.
Your method also does Konqueror and everything else.
Hmm… what solution? I don’t see anyone here looking for a streaming video system with a playback impediment, and not much call for that outside in userland.
You didn’t explain the weird noise. Its probably an alarm to warn of the impending stutter.
I have no flash stuttering issues in openSUSE 11.1 – I have tried both the BBC iPlayer, and visited pornhub to see what might happen. In pornhub the framerate does seem a little slow/stuttery at first, but taking the timeline slider back to the beginning of a given video after a couple of seconds of bad framerate smooths things out immensely (suggesting it is a matter of cache, and not Flashplayer itself).
At BBC I get the odd sound at the beginning of any video – like a loud digital crunch sound. But after that it’s smooth sailing, and the sound syncs with the video and everything is smooth.
This is on a 5mbps connection.
Hopefully someone can find the problem if it’s more than just cache, but that seems to be the issue.