Flame malware, in the news

I was reading an article in Wired about the Flame malware, Meet ‘Flame,’ The Massive Spy Malware Infiltrating Iranian Computers, which sounds not only dangerous, but dangerously intelligent! So far the only operating system I read it effecting is Windows but does anybody know anything more about this nasty thing?

Gives me more reason to stick with Linux, that’s for sure.

That is the big problem with all these articles, all the authors seem to think that using the word “computer” says it all. Does not add to their trustworthyness as ICT experts.

On 2012-05-31 17:46, dragonbite wrote:
>
> I was reading an article in Wired about the Flame malware, ‘Meet
> ‘Flame,’ The Massive Spy Malware Infiltrating Iranian Computers’
> (http://tinyurl.com/caz52of), which sounds not only dangerous, but
> dangerously intelligent! So far the only operating system I read it
> effecting is Windows but does anybody know anything more about this
> nasty thing?
>
> Gives me more reason to stick with Linux, that’s for sure.

This is a targeted attack. If you are of interest to them, rest assured
they will attack you, Linux or whatever you use. They will create software
to attack you.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

On Thu, 31 May 2012 22:03:06 +0530, Carlos E. R.
<robin_listas@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

> On 2012-05-31 17:46, dragonbite wrote:
>>
>> I was reading an article in Wired about the Flame malware, ‘Meet
>> ‘Flame,’ The Massive Spy Malware Infiltrating IranianComputers’
>> (http://tinyurl.com/caz52of), which sounds not only dangerous, but
>> dangerously intelligent! So far the only operating system I read it
>> effecting is Windows but does anybody know anything more about this
>> nasty thing?
>>
>> Gives me more reason to stick with Linux, that’s for sure.
>
> This is a targeted attack. If you are of interest to them, rest assured
> they will attack you, Linux or whatever you use. They will create
> software
> to attack you.
>

exactly; there’s no way to avoid NSA & co if they find you interesting.
grabbing your bus’s radiation from a close location, reading your
keystrokes from a shiny coffee pot next to your keyboard, or writing
custom software for whatever you use. so far i think what you keep inside
your head is farely safe, but nothing else.


phani.

On 2012-05-31 18:36, hcvv wrote:
>
> That is the big problem with all these articles, all the authors seem to
> think that using the word “computer” says it all. Does not add to their
> trustworthyness as ICT experts.

The article is good enough, as these things go. There are several quotes
from Kaspersky sources, which are more technical and accurate.

On the other hand the flaming war rages in the comments, which concentrate
in the highly controversial political issues instead of the technical issues.

If Linux is not mentioned in the article it may be simply because Kaspersky
has not investigated them, or because it has no clients using Kaspersky on
Linux, or because it has not been targeted yet (no interest). After all, it
only affects about a thousand machines.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

Yeah, I quickly avoided the comments when I realized they were heating up on the political issue and could care less about the technical aspects.

One thing I liked was that the article did have more technical information included and did not set off my “hype-it-up” alarms! :slight_smile:

On 5/31/2012 8:46 AM, dragonbite wrote:
>
> I was reading an article in Wired about the Flame malware, ‘Meet
> ‘Flame,’ The Massive Spy Malware Infiltrating Iranian Computers’
> (http://tinyurl.com/caz52of), which sounds not only dangerous, but
> dangerously intelligent! So far the only operating system I read it
> effecting is Windows but does anybody know anything more about this
> nasty thing?
>
> Gives me more reason to stick with Linux, that’s for sure.
>
>

I think it is fair to say that security is an illusion. One can read a
lot of comments pointing out that Linux is far superior over Windows
because it is so secure.

One thing to keep in mind is, that Flame (from what i know) is most
likely developed by a government.
From there you can conclude that it doesn’t matter what OS you use. If
they want they can which is for me the bottom line.

Besides, i think the news was a day before posted on Slashdot.


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I wouldn’t say security is an illusion. Security is kinda like martial arts. You have to study it, practice it, constantly develop it. Even then, there is someone always better, and there are things that martial arts may not work to well with. Same is true with computers. I can do things with Windows to make it about as secure as Linux. Some of the stuff is radical though. I can also do things in Linux to make it as insecure as Windows (like running only from root user). Security is not just the study of, but the application of what you have learned. Security is the continual education and practice of what you have learned. Essentially, security comes down to the user.

On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:56:02 +0000, Jonathan R wrote:

> I wouldn’t say security is an illusion. Security is kinda like martial
> arts. You have to study it, practice it, constantly develop it.

This is a good way to look at it - I like the analogy.

Security isn’t an illusion…but time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly
so. :slight_smile:

Jim


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On 6/1/2012 8:13 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:56:02 +0000, Jonathan R wrote:
>
>> I wouldn’t say security is an illusion. Security is kinda like martial
>> arts. You have to study it, practice it, constantly develop it.
>
> This is a good way to look at it - I like the analogy.
>
> Security isn’t an illusion…but time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly
> so. :slight_smile:
>
> Jim
>
>
>

I heard once from a native here that time is a trickster. One day you
have time, the next its gone.


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On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 21:48:05 +0000, JoergJaeger wrote:

>> Security isn’t an illusion…but time is an illusion. Lunchtime
>> doubly so. :slight_smile:
>>
> I heard once from a native here that time is a trickster. One day you
> have time, the next its gone.

Here’s how it works. :slight_smile:

Time is an illusion caused by the passage of history.

History is an illusion caused by the passage of time.

:slight_smile:


Jim Henderson
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My head is starting to hurt! :silly:

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 01:46:02 +0000, dragonbite wrote:

> My head is starting to hurt! :silly:

I’m wondering if anyone’s catching the references. :wink:

Jim


Jim Henderson
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I love temporal mechanics. :wink:

Time is nothing more than the rotation, vibration and spatial transfer of every particle in the universe. If all that were to stop, time would stop too. I haven’t published this theory yet. :wink:

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:56:03 +0000, Jonathan R wrote:

> I love temporal mechanics. :wink:

The real problem is how language has to change when traveling in time.

I personally always get stuck at the future semiconditionally modified
subinverted plagal past subjunctive intentional tense.

Jim


Jim Henderson
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On 2012-06-03 18:44, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:56:03 +0000, Jonathan R wrote:
>
>> I love temporal mechanics. :wink:
>
> The real problem is how language has to change when traveling in time.
>
> I personally always get stuck at the future semiconditionally modified
> subinverted plagal past subjunctive intentional tense.

Definitely I’m getting a headache…


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 17:58:07 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> On 2012-06-03 18:44, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:56:03 +0000, Jonathan R wrote:
>>
>>> I love temporal mechanics. :wink:
>>
>> The real problem is how language has to change when traveling in time.
>>
>> I personally always get stuck at the future semiconditionally modified
>> subinverted plagal past subjunctive intentional tense.
>
> Definitely I’m getting a headache…

Fortunately, after that entry in the book in question, the rest of the
pages are left blank to save on printing costs. :wink:

Jim

Jim Henderson
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Do we know the future now? I’m is a contraction of I am, which it present tense. Getting, in this case, is a future tense. More accurately it’s present tense with the anticipation of the future. In reality though, when we say that, it’s comparing past events to the present, to give a prediction of the future. So, “I’m getting a headache” would be comparing the past to the present, to anticipate the future.

All this heady philosophy is detracting from the subject of this thread…:?

Judging from the way that Kapersky describes the Flame malware, it seems to me to be a ‘must have’ for criminals. And who knows, there may be some underpaid civil servant or whoever ready to sell a copy to the highest bidder. Would we ever find the perpetrators if Flame got out into the wild? The trouble is, leaders of nation states are not called criminals for making such evil weapons…