DistroWatch.com shows that openSUSE 42.1 is out. Apparently it comes without Firefox and Thunderbird.
Am I correct? What other packages are being offered instead of Firefox/Thunderbird?
Firefox and Thunderbird are both there.
What’s missing, is the flash plugin, though that is available from the packman repo.
I have Firefox 41.0.2 from LEAP, I have no idea where did distrowatch get their info
I am expecting Firefox to be updated to 42 in the next few days
to be clear LEAP does include both Firefox and Thunderbird it even has SeaMonkey
Good to know! My observation was based on the table shown in this link: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=opensuse
I’m surprised they didn’t update LEAP’s screenshot
people seeing that screenshot might think LEAP comes with kde4, LEAP comes with KDE Frameworks 5.15
to be clear LEAP looks nothing like that.
I’m not a gnome user and seeing how LEAP is based on SLE does the gnome desktop look like this one from sle12
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=sle
I really don’t like the top start menu and a few other tweaks upstream gnome does
there is also a link to adobe’s flash repo in repository management->community repo’s
http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/linux/x86_64/
still packman’s is the better choice
What would be the advantages of upgrading from 13.2 to 42.1? There is a huge jump in version numbers, so that tells me that 42.1 is radically different from what I’ve been using so far.
If I go from 13.2 to 42.1, will I be able to keep the contents of /home?
How long will 13.2 get security patches?
according to the old rules 13.2 will be getting patches for 14 more months (42.1 lifetime + 2 months)
the numbering jump has more meanings, opensuse will be getting some official packages and some support from SUSE (the commercial version), in the past opensuse stable was based on Factory or TW now it will be based on SLE so it should be more stable.
the reason for number jump is 2 fold to understand that opensuse is downstream from SUSE Enterprise and that SUSE Enterprise guys love The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, the first official SUSE version was not 1.0 but 4.2
the second part of the number 1 from 42.1 is associated with the SLE service pack number that LEAP is build from, Enterprise will be getting SLE12 service pack 1 soon and LEAP 42.1 will be closely related to SLE12sp1
I suggest you have a read of announcement from the horse’s mouth, see here:https: https://news.opensuse.org/
It explains the reasoning behind Leap, its version numbering, and more. 
Where is thunderbird located in OpenSuse Leap KDE? I can’t find it any where, only Firefox. I even did a search for “Thunderbird” in search field for applications menu and nothing comes up. This is OpenSuse Leap 42.1 build 0265 iso. Did zypper up etc too, and nothing was mentioned of Thunderbird. Under “Internet” there’s KMail or whatever though. I plan to do fresh installation with released ISO then though.
It’s in the oss repo as well as the Mozilla repo and a few others too
https://software.opensuse.org/package/MozillaThunderbird
atm all repo’s house tb 38.3.0, here’s a direct link to the oss one
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Leap:/42.1/standard/i586/MozillaThunderbird-38.3.0-2.2.i586.rpm
If it’s not in the menu, search with YaST or zypper, as you may have to install it, from the oss repo, as in other versions of openSUSE. BTW I use it. 
As far as I can remember Thunderbird was never preselected/preinstalled on opensuse you always had to select it from yast or zypper.
sudo zypper in MozillaThunderbird
Oh okay, thanks guys… Yeah, that’s what I had done before, installed it myself with the one click (downloadable) thing or whatever. Will do that then after fresh install with latest ISO, thanks again.
Oh, as in other thread of mine regarding repos, just forget adding mozilla repo right, and let the updates come through with “zypper up”. Mozilla products eventually get updated in Leap with “zypper up”?
Adding the mozilla repo is your choice as all updates end-up in the update repo, the mozilla repo usually gets updates a day or two earlier but an extra repo is an extra repo and the software you get is the same.
currently Firefox is at 41.0.2 from the update repo and 42 from the mozilla repo, thunderbird is the same.
I’m not quite sure what you are asking.
Thunderbird is not installed by default when you install KDE. It is part of an XFCE install. But you can always install it from the repos anyway.
Or are you asking where to find it in the menus?
Lol Okay, I’ll probably just let the update repo handle it I guess, if I can help it I’m going to try NOT to be a “repo hoarder” lmao.
Oh okay, gotcha. I just wasn’t sure if Thunderbird came preinstalled or not like Firefox does, so I was trying to locate it in search in menu. It’s there now in menu under “Internet”, as I zypper’ed (sudo zypper in MozillaThunderbird) it in to install it. I’m good to go now lol.
I’ve never seen Thunderbird installed by default on KDE distro’s as they always have KMail…which I loath lol. I know this sounds bad, but I wish Microsoft released an official “Office for Linux” for those of us who MUST use Office for work and hate using VM’s to access Outlook and Excel…I know, dream on lol
Yeah I don’t like KMail either, I’m Thunderturd guy myself. Lol!
Eeeek! He mentions Microshit on an OpenSuse forum thread… runs to the mountains to hide lmao
I could have sworn I had installed a Linux KDE distro and it was already installed on it, not sure now if it’s 13.2, Tumbleweed, Kubuntu, or what…