'File system at ...... Not responding' at boot into desktop

English Install/Boot/Login
#1

Am I looking at a problem with my machine? my Leap Install?, Plasma?, or ??? who knows?
https://susepaste.org/13993452
This is an image of a popup I get on occasion(seems like every week for a few weeks now). It happens after the desktop is displayed, and after the network connection is made.
This time it was for ‘/home’, but the other times it was for ‘/’
IS it indicative of file systems starting to corrupt, or something in the system needing fixed. I see it has Plasma on the popup.

Sorry, but I couldn’t catch it as it happened. The image was in the notifications, so I tweaked it for posting here.

#2

I’ve never seen this, so only throwing out ideas:

  1. Is this a super fast PC using a large NVME for /home while you are using autologin for Plasma when this happens?
  2. Could there be some kind of boot-time BTRFS housekeeping being delayed?
  3. If SSD, has discard been used regularly? Is it overdue? How has it been configured?
    *]Does your storage benchmark reasonably compared to when new?
#3

No, it is just my old HP Compaq with /home being ext3.

  1. BTRFS shows up in the post up sequence(s), but I do not have any BTRFS file systems.
  1. Nope, haven’t invested in SSD’s yet.
  1. I don’t know! How do I know that?
#4

I suspect it’s just a warning and not a serious error that during bootup, for whatever reason the particular partition wasn’t mounted on time. If you have access when you login, then it’s non-critical.

Still,
Something is delaying your filesystem mount.
If you use your machine daily and you’ve been upgrading your system for maybe 4 or more years, have you defragmented your files? Although modern filesystems say they don’t have to be defragged, I’ve found that performance is always improved if there is extreme file fragmentation.

File fragmentation happens as a combination of

  • How full your partition/filesystem is
  • Amount of write activity
  • Sizes of individual files, particularly often used files
  • How long it has been since last defragged or initial system install.

There are probably more factors but I’ve found that you’re likely going to see a problem build up if your filesystem usage > 60% and becoming more extreme quickly the less free space there is, using the machine continuously to modify/create new files, enormous files like virtual disk files and after 4 or more years (but can be weeks if your system is already under extreme resource starvation).

Highly fragmented files = High latencies reading files = Slow performance which might be cause of things like slow mounts, slow opening files, etc.

TSU

#5

You cannot really compare to when new if you didn’t test when new. I use hdparm -tT when I get a new disk, and save its input and output to a file on my LAN server.

#6

I get this popup when attaching the Garmin eTrex 30x to my machines. Journalctl shows details:

**3400G:~ #** journalctl --since 7:00 _KERNEL_SUBSYSTEM=usb _KERNEL_SUBSYSTEM=scsi 
-- Logs begin at Sat 2020-12-12 12:09:37 CET, end at Wed 2020-12-16 07:10:29 CET. -- 
Dec 16 07:08:52 3400G kernel: usb 1-4: new full-speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd 
Dec 16 07:09:05 3400G kernel: usb 1-4: new full-speed USB device number 4 using xhci_hcd 
Dec 16 07:09:05 3400G kernel: **usb 1-4: Device not responding to setup address.**
Dec 16 07:09:05 3400G kernel: **usb 1-4: Device not responding to setup address.**
Dec 16 07:09:05 3400G kernel: **usb 1-4: device not accepting address 4, error -71**
Dec 16 07:09:46 3400G kernel: usb 1-4: new full-speed USB device number 6 using xhci_hcd 
Dec 16 07:09:46 3400G kernel: usb 1-4: New USB device found, idVendor=091e, idProduct=28ca, bcdDevice= 5.09 
Dec 16 07:09:46 3400G kernel: usb 1-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=5 
Dec 16 07:09:46 3400G kernel: usb 1-4: SerialNumber: 0000eae6763f 
Dec 16 07:09:46 3400G kernel: usb-storage 1-4:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected 
Dec 16 07:09:46 3400G kernel: scsi host8: usb-storage 1-4:1.0 
Dec 16 07:09:47 3400G kernel: **scsi 8:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Garmin   GARMIN Flash     1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5**
Dec 16 07:09:47 3400G kernel: **scsi 8:0:0:1: Direct-Access     Garmin   GARMIN Card      1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5**
Dec 16 07:09:47 3400G kernel: **sd 8:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0**
Dec 16 07:09:47 3400G kernel: **sd 8:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg4 type 0**
Dec 16 07:09:47 3400G kernel: **sd 8:0:0:0: Power-on or device reset occurred**
Dec 16 07:09:47 3400G kernel: **sd 8:0:0:0: [sdd] 7733248 512-byte logical blocks: (3.96 GB/3.69 GiB)**
Dec 16 07:09:47 3400G kernel: **sd 8:0:0:1: Power-on or device reset occurred**
Dec 16 07:09:47 3400G kernel: **sd 8:0:0:1: [sde] 15353856 512-byte logical blocks: (7.86 GB/7.32 GiB)**
Dec 16 07:09:47 3400G kernel: **sd 8:0:0:0: [sdd] Write Protect is off**
Dec 16 07:09:47 3400G kernel: sd 8:0:0:0: [sdd] Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00
Dec 16 07:09:47 3400G kernel: **sd 8:0:0:1: [sde] Write Protect is off**
Dec 16 07:09:47 3400G kernel: sd 8:0:0:1: [sde] Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00
Dec 16 07:09:47 3400G kernel: **sd 8:0:0:0: [sdd] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA**
Dec 16 07:09:47 3400G kernel: **sd 8:0:0:1: [sde] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA**
Dec 16 07:09:48 3400G kernel: **sd 8:0:0:0: [sdd] Attached SCSI removable disk**
Dec 16 07:09:48 3400G kernel: **sd 8:0:0:1: [sde] Attached SCSI removable disk**
**3400G:~ #**
#7

Look in journalctl and look in the SMART status of your HDD. I see this with installs on USB-sticks from time to time when a lot of IO-activity is going on…

#8

When I remember correctly, there is another thread here not too long ago with an almost similar complant. Try to find it.

#9

Not very helpful thread, ended nowhere…

https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/546880-Warning-file-system-at-Not-responding-(it-had-a-big-red-something-in-the-pop-up)

#10

OK, but do you think it is the same problem?

#11

That was my thread, and I ‘think’ it may be the same or very similar problem.
That pop up comes on top of the network connection pop up.

it is just disturbing that it has started recently( I don’t remember how long back).

During post up, I do see a whale of of a lot of ‘apparmor-parser’ messages and they seem to be getting more and more weekly.
Probably my imagination, but both laptops hardly have any of the ‘apparmor-parser’ lines.

I may do a drastic thing, and stick the install USB back in and do a ‘fix’ or an upgrade.

#12

You may post your journal as suggested already: https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/548026-File-system-at-Not-responding-at-boot-into-desktop?p=2989292#post2989292