Facts about Novell that make me real sad/outraged

:’(It’s very very saddening when you discover that your favorite distro is connected with such events:
Digg - Boycott Novell Protestors Manhandled at Free Software Conf
Alas, stumbling upon Boycott Novell made my sadness grow into sheer outrage.>:(
An ever growing number of liGNUxers consider OpenSuSE some sort of a Novell-Microsoft pawn and a dangerous threat to everything that FOSS stands for. Should the OpenSuSE community consider taking distances from Novell’s corporate policy? And if so, how?

The organizers of the event who belong to Communist Party of India (Marxist) are to blame, not Novell.

At the most, I see/read nothing but FUD on those pages. The page spends most of its time referring to Microsoft. The facts as presented on one of those URLs, are slim, spun with FUD, and very distorted, and also are out right incorrect in some cases.

If you want some real facts, read up on how much Novell has spent in funding the openSouce community, and specifically funding Linux to the benefit of all Linux distributions.

Frankly, I would not pay those sorts of misleading web sites any attention.

How to read any news HOWTO:

  • “Not only the organizers of National Conference On Free Software 2008 taking place at CUSAT seem to be utterly misguided when they decided to let Novell be on-board as their main sponsor”

Well… I’m the only one smelling bias?

  • “I’m not sure whether the conference organizers took this step on their own or in cahoots with Novell-Microsoft “gang”

And I’m not sure whether the conference organizers took this step on their own or in cahoots with IBM-Nestlé “gang"… when I say “I’m not sure” I mean “I don’t have a single evidene, but I say it anyway”.

“Arky’s blog reports about Boycott Novell Protesters Man-handled with some photos. When this agency asked the Free Software Conference 2008 organizers about this they answered…”
would be a news report that you could trust.

Seriously, aren’t all schools worldwide teaching how to recognise when you can trust a new and when you can’t? This one is an easy example…

Open-source is about freeing the software. The license the software is released under determines whether or not the software is open-source.

openSUSE Linux is GPL’d (and thus open-sourced, or free) software. No matter what Microsoft wants to do, the license ensures that this software cannot be taken away from you. You will always have the ability to use the software in any way you see fit.

You can be worried about Microsoft/Novell all you want - it doesn’t change how free the software is. The software you get in openSUSE is the exact same software you’d get from Red Hat or Canonical.

> :’(It’s very very saddening when you discover that your favorite distro
> is connected with such events:
> ‘Digg - Boycott Novell Protestors Manhandled at Free Software Conf’
> (http://tinyurl.com/5ndx4u)
> Alas, stumbling upon ‘Boycott Novell’ (http://boycottnovell.com) made
> my sadness grow into sheer outrage.>:(
> An ever growing number of liGNUxers consider OpenSuSE some sort of a
> Novell-Microsoft pawn and a dangerous threat to everything that FOSS
> stands for. Should the OpenSuSE community consider taking distances from
> Novell’s corporate policy? And if so, how?

Someone always has an agenda. If Novell becomes a poor steward of SuSE then
we all leave, big deal, many distros to choose from.

Non-issue IMHO.

On 11/17/2008 JosipBroz wrote:
> An ever growing number of liGNUxers consider OpenSuSE some sort of a
> Novell-Microsoft pawn and a dangerous threat to everything that FOSS
> stands for.

Why and how? And no, a copy&paste from Boycottnovell won’t do :slight_smile:

Uwe

a) I’m sure that you could find something about anything to outrage you
if you look hard enough. You have to look at the bias of the source, as
others have said.

b) The deal has been in place for 2 years - and now you’re outraged by it
because of what you read here?

c) Contrary to (what appears to be) popular belief, Novell and/or
Microsoft are not in control of the police in India.

d) Novell was a sponsor, not the event organiser.

e) Did I mention that you should check the bias of the source?

Jim

On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 09:46 +0000, JosipBroz wrote:
> :’(It’s very very saddening when you discover that your favorite distro
> is connected with such events:
> ‘Digg - Boycott Novell Protestors Manhandled at Free Software Conf’
> (http://tinyurl.com/5ndx4u)
> Alas, stumbling upon ‘Boycott Novell’ (http://boycottnovell.com) made
> my sadness grow into sheer outrage.>:(
> An ever growing number of liGNUxers consider OpenSuSE some sort of a
> Novell-Microsoft pawn and a dangerous threat to everything that FOSS
> stands for. Should the OpenSuSE community consider taking distances from
> Novell’s corporate policy? And if so, how?
>
>

Please change your subject line to “Lies about Novell …”

I recommend that you do just a little bit… not a lot… just
a teeny weeny little bit of research before you spread
FUD… ok?

Believe it or not… not all protests are “good”. Yes…
it’s true! Some protests are designed to simply to
stir the masses into a fury over misinformation from
a minority that is starving for attention.

See my post at Boycott Novell Protesters Man-handled at National Conference - openSUSE Forums
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Actually it’s quite the opposite. There were masses of people who turned away from SuSE when Novell first had a (very minor) deal with Microsoft. You couldn’t frequent any *nix forum without hearing an uproar. However when the dust settled, many found they were just knee-jerking over the Microsoft name even being included in any kind of activity in the *nix community, and more specifically with Novell. Eventually many found they were merely overreacting.

If anything, it’s an Ever Narrowing Number of *nix users who still hold resentment.