Its quite interesting that Facebook views your own information as their intellectual property onto which you don’t posses any right whatsoever.
Thats on top that it does not delete any information upon quiting the service if you explicit tell Facebook that you do want to delete it.
The world is full of evils, but this is a dangerous path i see commercially emerging in which the masses are hostage in the hands of co-operations. Sad, really sad.
Interesting. I saw a report on what you describe on a German TV channel yesterday evening. As it seems, the story gets quite some publicity. But when they did interviews with some fb users most of them said they would not care and continue to use fb.
How is that different from this forum? My German isn’t up to it:, I’ve not tried to have my account here removed, so there might be some difference(s) I’m not seeing from your post.
On 9/30/2011 7:56 AM, consused wrote:
>
> JoergJaeger;2388904 Wrote:
>> I like to forward an article i was reading today on the Frankfurter
>> Rundschau (german)…
>>
>> Its quite interesting that Facebook views your own information as their
>> intellectual property onto which you don’t posses any right whatsoever.
>> Thats on top that it does not delete any information upon quiting the
>> service if you explicit tell Facebook that you do want to delete it.
> How is that different from this forum? My German isn’t up to it:, I’ve
> not tried to have my account here removed, so there might be some
> difference(s) I’m not seeing from your post.
>
>
The point was
a) information gets never deleted even if you quit facebook and it ask
you “do you want really to delete?” it ignores it and stores it anyway.
b) the amount that is stored and filtered
c) that your personal information is now property of facebook and not
anymore yours.
I think there is a difference. The good point is that under EU law you
apparently can sue facebook. It doesn’t work here in the US.
A forum does store information about you, but your profile is not nearly
as comprehensive as on facebook.
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On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 22:09:30 +0000, JoergJaeger wrote:
> On 9/30/2011 7:56 AM, consused wrote:
>>
>> JoergJaeger;2388904 Wrote:
>>> I like to forward an article i was reading today on the Frankfurter
>>> Rundschau (german)…
>>>
>>> Its quite interesting that Facebook views your own information as
>>> their intellectual property onto which you don’t posses any right
>>> whatsoever. Thats on top that it does not delete any information upon
>>> quiting the service if you explicit tell Facebook that you do want to
>>> delete it.
>> How is that different from this forum? My German isn’t up to it:, I’ve
>> not tried to have my account here removed, so there might be some
>> difference(s) I’m not seeing from your post.
>>
>>
>>
> The point was
> a) information gets never deleted even if you quit facebook and it ask
> you “do you want really to delete?” it ignores it and stores it anyway.
> b) the amount that is stored and filtered c) that your personal
> information is now property of facebook and not anymore yours.
>
> I think there is a difference. The good point is that under EU law you
> apparently can sue facebook. It doesn’t work here in the US. A forum
> does store information about you, but your profile is not nearly as
> comprehensive as on facebook.
Arguably, in either case the profile is only as complete as you make it.
My personal approach in both cases is only to provide information I’m
either happy to let the world know, or to provide information that - if
it gets out to the world - I’m not going to be upset/ruined because it
got out.
Jim,
That’s the approach I took to FB when I joined it about a year back. I left about FB about 4 months ago when the TOS was changed to where FB would allow 3rd parties to view your profile no matter what your settings. Despite the minimal info in my profile I thought that this would have become a source for spam, so I left. Even then according to the TOS they didn’t guarantee everything would be deleted.
My point here is I could see back then where it was going so it’s not like this was an unexpected thing to me.
As to those who’ll continue even though they know one of 2 things will happen:
1.later that profile will bite their butt(very possible)
2.maybe due to information overload the bulk of people will cease to care about Fb profiles( I think this unlikely)
Personally, IMO the day will come when everything one does whether on the web or off will be publicly available,if it’s not here already, just ask Mr Google.
So one might conclude that there is little difference between the forum and FB wrt ownership of information. The content of personal profile is up to the individual account holder - Jim’s personal example provides a useful approach. Of course there are differences in size, and possibly in management and administration that might impact on a user’s comfort zone…
By syncing their cell phones with fb people can add a lot of information about me even if I am not a registered user and have no intention to ever use fb.
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 11:46:02 +0000, consused wrote:
> So one might conclude that there is little difference between the forum
> and FB wrt ownership of information.
Except that we have deleted accounts at the user’s request, and when we
do, the profile is in fact deleted. The posts stay (as they’re part of
the aggregate content of the forum), but they become attributed to
‘Guest’.