Error = " Read Only Filesystem"

I have double boot (windows7 and Opensuse) on my laptop.

My problem is when ı try to login Opensuse ıt says Read only file system.(While booting a lot of things FAİLS(written red) because of Read only file system).

So i can’t login.

Cause of this problem is ı want to reach my Opensuse filesystem from windows7.I installed Ext2fsd software to windows7.After ı installed software ı can see my opensuse filesystem.But it looks empty from windows7.So ı uninstalled the software.

After that day ı try to login my Opensuse.While booting alot of thing fails to load it says “FAILED”.and when ı entered my password after entering my username ı cant login it says … Read Only File System.

How can i make the filesystem Read/write permissions to my opensuse operating system.

Please help me.
Really sorry for may really bad english.
Thanks.

EDİT== I can’t use any command beceause ı can’t login. (I will try to boot with Opensuse Dvd)

Looks like you may have damaged the filesystem. Use the repair option from the CD to fix it.

I run repair tool from dvd and it found that /dev/sda2 filesystem is corrupted.And it asked repair or skip.When ı select repair it asks again and again same question like an infinite loop.Until ı select skip.So it does not repair the filesystem.

I don’t understand what’s wrong about repair tool.

Please help me.
Thanks…

it is hard to tell from here, but it sounds like the “installed
Ext2fsd software to windows7” damaged your linux partitions beyond
repair…

suggest you reinstall Linux and NOT allow any Redmond software to
touch any Linux Ext2, Ext3 or Ext4 partitions…

if you want Win7 to muck around in data you wish to share between the
two systems then you should have a FAT32 partition which either system
can access and write to…

finally: modern Linux distros can read and write Redmond file systems
safely…the reverse is not true.


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The ext2fsd program for windows works erratically with windows 7. It also does not work well with ext4 filesystems. You have two valid methods of accessing Linux partitions from Windose. 1) use samba, or two make a separate partition for shared data as DenverD suggested. Being Windose 7 you will find no end of trouble using fat32 filesystems. While these are also M$ filesystems, M$ has removed the ability to create or format them in windose 7. Linux while it can create and format them, it’s a fifty fifty shot whether or not Windose 7 will play nice with them. As such, your options reduce to samba or NTFS for sharing data between the OS’s.

As for access to the Linux partition, it does look like Linux was hosed probably by the ext2fsd program under Windose. If it were me, I would use the Linux gparted program to restructure the hdd to provide:

  1. Primary partition hda1 NTFS for Windose (if already there and accessible leave it ) or consider resizing it to meet your needs.
  2. hda2 as extended with the partitions (logical) that you want access from windose 7. Logical drives hda5,6,7 …
  3. hda3 primary partition for Linux swap
  4. hda4 Primary for Linux root

These are just general guidelines, your needs may differ greatly from this. Examples of alternatives include making swap root boot usr and home also into extended and no hda3 or hda4. Point is there are many ways you can do the system, but just make sure you have NTFS used for sharing data between the OS’s.

Yesterday, ı installed other linux based operating system and ı run command “fsck /dev/sda2”.It found lot’s of errors and it asked repair them or skip them.I ı choose repair them and ıt said succesfully repaired the file system.After that ı try to login my Opensuse.This time everything success to load on booting and ı succesfully login my Opensuse :slight_smile: :). Now there isn’t any problem with my Opensuse.Everything works. : )

But ı don’t understand that why my Opensuse dvd repair tool can’t repair my filesystem and why when ı enter “fsck /dev/sda2” command in other linux based operating system can repair my Opensuse filesystem correctly ? I think my opensuse dvd damaged.

I’m writing this message from Opensuse :slight_smile:

Problem solved thanks for all answers :slight_smile:

Edit:Again sorry for my bad English.

The repair option on the DVD is a simple repair and does not deep dive the problem. If you had booted to a command line and done fsck /dev/sda2 then it would have fixed the problems. Note that the full fsck can repair the structure but you may still lose data. Any pieces of files/directories that fsck can not figure out end up in the Lost & found directory. If /dev/sda2 is the root partition you may have parts of binary files that may be incomplete and impossible to stitch back together by hand. So it is likely that there are still damaged files on the system. If you have files in Lost and Found then You should reinstall or at least repair the system to be sure you have the complete system.

techwiz03 wrote:
> Being Windose 7 you will find no end of trouble using fat32 filesystems. While
> these are also M$ filesystems, M$ has removed the ability to create or
> format them in windose 7.

boy, my knowledge of those systems is getting more and more stale each
day…thanks for setting the facts straight…and, for my feeble
education: if FAT32 is no longer a ‘safe’ place that both systems can
read/write…what is? NTFS? can i put NTFS on a USB stick to carry to
Win7 inflicted friends house?

i just don’t understand why MS persists in making it as difficult as
possible for their customers and others to interact…can’t they see
it is impossible to hold the universe to their way by breaking
anti-monopoly laws and locking in their customers or locking out others?


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Since OP has regained access to his filesystem to check and make repairs, I will try to expand on Linux to Windows filesystems. M$ dropped many tools starting with windows XP to discourage users from hanging on to the old systems.
First to go was fat12 fdd format as bootable. All Windows system can create fdd fat12 as data disks but you cannot create bootable ones anymore.
Windows XP deleted the ability to create fat16 filesystems in favor of keeping users to fat32 and NTFS introduced in windows 2000. Windows XP pro sp1 could create Fat32 but XP home and XP pro (after sp1) could no longer create fat32.
Windows Vista removed the ability to fix fat32.
Windows 7 sp1 can access fat32 for general rd/wr but like XP and Vista can’t create it. In addition, if the filesystem is created by another OS Windows 7 may reject it. When Windows creates a filesystem it does not care if the filesystem does not end on a sector boundary. But when professional OS’s create the filesystem they make sure the filesystem is calculated exactly to fit with sector boundaries. Thusly, windows will see the occasional miss-match of sizes and refuse to work with the filesystem. Linux understands the slight differences and will try to work with them unless it encounters too much of a difference.
The ext2fsd that the OP used which IMHO caused the original problem uses the same dll’s that windows uses to access the filesystem on a windows system. As can be seen this can reek havoc on the Linux partitions through node displacement errors.
Dedicating a partition as shared with NTFS for data is about the safest we can do for now. Linux can create NTFS but sometimes windows doesn’t like such a clean defined fs. Thusly it is best to create the NTFS under windows, data moved to the NTFS under windows should be backed up to a Linux only partition just in case windows doesn’t shutdown cleanly at some point.
There is talk about M$ changing the rd/wr access to CD and DVD roms, and USB drives. To quote “Microsoft has always had the contention that people using ‘OUR’ computers should not be trying to access ‘OUR’ data by some other system. This clearly is against our EULA”. My take on the statement was that M$ figures all PC’s with a version of Windose on it belongs to them. And that all data created by using their system also belongs to them.

Great for M$ but shackles the whole concept of creativity, productivity, and the like.

wow! thanks…so, i learned if i want to sneaker net a USB stick with
my unfortunate friends i need to have them format the stick to some fs
their lock-in understands, and then all is well (because Mr. Linux can
correctly read and write to anything they can format…until it gets
‘innovated’ to break Linux, again)…

by the way, i think NTFS was first introduced, not in Windows 2000,
but rather in NT 3.0-- which was their first release of an OS based on
previous work with IBM on OS/2, where the joint venture produced HPFS
(for High Performance File System)…and, i think NTFS was supposed to
be for New Technology File System, but turned out to be Nice Try FS,
or something like that :slight_smile:

and, i would dearly love to have a cite to: “Microsoft has always had
the contention that people using our computers should not be trying to
access our data by some other system. This clearly is against our
EULA”…just now Google can only find it here, in this forum…


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NFS was the Network filesystem of nt3.0 but it lacked good integration with features they were carrying forward from win98/ME so NTFS took their lead for windows 2000. You do have quite a bit of miss-conceptions about the whole who owns what / who worked with whom. While I guess some would say it’s just history, most of us humans tend to build on history. If our history is bad, wrong assumptions can lead to such confusion that promotes copyright / trademark / intellectual property rights litigation.
check out:
Uses of Microsoft Windows that May Violate the EULA@Everything2.com
Microsoft Virtualization Licensing and Distribution Terms
First-sale doctrine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Is it OK to use OEM Windows on your own PC? Don’t ask Microsoft | ZDNet
Microsoft bans netbooks with hybrid storage | bit-tech.net

and, i would dearly love to have a cite to: “Microsoft has always had the contention that people using our computers should not be trying to access our data by some other system. This clearly is against our EULA”…just now Google can only find it here, in this forum…

Stuff on the net is supposed to live forever, unfortunately, as sites get taken down, scrubbled by M$ and others (as noted in some articles noted above) www info does get policed intensionally or not. I cited from memory of research done for a client some 4 years back. Normally, I would have the old research available but in this instance the machine it was on is no longer functioning. I did try and dredge up some of the old research using my links to articles but over 3/4th’s of them are now dead links.

But there is this from Microsoft’s Investor Central
"An important element of our business model has been to create platform-based ecosystems on which many participants can build diverse solutions. A competing vertically-integrated model, in which a single firm controls both the software and hardware elements of a product has been successful with certain consumer products such as personal computers, mobile phones, and digital music players. We also offer vertically-integrated hardware and software products; however, efforts to compete with the vertically integrated model may increase our cost of sales and reduce our operating margins. "

While it doesn’t say what I originally researched it does vaguely elude to it.

whole story at:
Microsoft Investor Central - Risk Factors

techwiz03 wrote:
> ‘Is it OK to use OEM Windows on your own PC? Don’t ask Microsoft |
> ZDNet’ (http://tinyurl.com/32nhztc)

i tired to send this in PM, but was unable:

what a lot of reading…thanks for all the cites…some were really
interesting…some not so much…

my request for a cite to your quote was not a challenge, just a bit
confused as to why i couldn’t pull it out of the ether…i had no
idea that MS is also into changing history by removing internet cites…

interesting…
dd


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