So, thanks for that — now I need to make my own internal repo with the final versions of these drivers.
As a dedicated suse lover, and someone familiar with the practices of other distros, I am surprised they were hastily just taken offline (what, to save a teeny bit of space? aww **** what a joke) without putting them in a proper “archive” area with at least a readme saying - “im a minimalist neat freak who maintains this old 11.3 repo, and I cant help myself, im going to delete these so F U kiddo >:)” or something professional like that. lol
I would appreciate it if whoever maintains this could have a heart and let me download this repo, then post my own internal (or external) mirror of these as I have to keep deploying 11.3 due to a strict policy where i work that doesn’t allow us to update to 11.4 - I can see no other way to get these packages other then humiliating myself, and the “maintainer” of that repo and begging here.
If the maintainer can take a little joke and criticism , please PM me, I REALLY NEED THESE PACKAGES!! I DONT MIND HOSTING THEM!!! – thanks!
So, case in point, I know 11.3 is EOL – BUT I expected some delay in deleting all the packages!! Hence, I was not amused to find this:
The driver RPMs hosted in this location are entirely built, maintained and supported by Novell/SUSE. NVIDIA hosts them as a courtesy to Novell, however all problems and support requests related to these RPMs should be reported to Novell via their bug tracking system:http://bugzilla.novell.com
I guess your interpretation of EOL is that it is a vague affair. But th EOL of 11.3 was anounced early enough to let you copy things you need before the date. This was btw 2012-01-20 and thus five monthes ago. And no matter what your idea is about this (“hastily”, “tiny bit of space”), this is the fact: EOL, then cleanup all the repos, irrespective if this amuse you or not.
It may be that nevertheless somebody shows up here who can help you, but doing as if you complain about the old repos not being available will not help in encouraging people to go and search in old places.
BTW I do not know if the forces that govern you and do not let you upgrade to a supported version of openSUSE realize, but allready since five months the system does not get any security updates. So far for their strict policy.
There is probably one server in the world which still has them … but the short answer to your question is “nowhere”.
He doesn’t mind replacing working drivers with buggy ones for the current releases. I doubt he cares about older releases.
I might be wrong … but my guess is that neither Novell nor Nvidia cares about the problem you’re having now to get a driver for your 11.3. If you can not afford to update your system, you have to compile the driver yourself … or use ATI. With atiupgrade you can create rpm packages for any driver version under any openSUSE release (well, maybe not any, but 11.3 for sure *).
provided you have the kernel source package installed. If not, you won’t find it either. So you see, there is not much you can do with a dead release.
Oh man a whole 5 months! What an idiot I am to work for a company that is building software on your 11.3 platform! They are all idiots! I am an idiot! haha wow 5 months - what a ton of time!
I like your attitude - at least being nice about the issue. I have about 150 desktops with nvidia cards so that isnt going to help. Also, we dont care about the security updates - that is a non-issue for us. We just want the rpms that were last in that repo, and I am trying to hunt down the maintainer of that repo. We need those rpms and we expected them to be online just as long as packman and opensuse hosted 11.3 rpms and updates (they still do) 11.4 breaks our build system and we wont be upgrading to it anytime soon. we are code frozen with the libs and utils from 11.3 to keep our development costs down. we just really would love those nv rpms… oh well.
If its so dead… why are the other repos online still? when are they going away?
I already preemptively started making my own repo from the packages we use from 11.3 --we are just lacking NV rpms.
(btw we dont want to mess with the .run files from NV - they are awful.)
rpm -qa > /root/rpm.txt
while read line; do
zypper in -f -l -y -d $line
done < "/root/rpm.txt
maybe the 11.3 policy setter will believe it was our fault you didn’t
make a mirror sometime between Thursday, July 15th 2010 and January 20th
2012…or even February, March and April…when it was (afaik) still
up… yes, you are not the first with a misunderstanding of what END of
life means…
“maybe the 11.3 policy setter will believe it was our fault you didn’t
make a mirror sometime between Thursday, July 15th 2010 and January 20th
2012…or even February, March and April…when it was (afaik) still
up… yes, you are not the first with a misunderstanding of what END of
life means…”
HI DD you have exactly the same mentality as I about all this – I dont see why even if a distro is EOL its so hard to keep repos online, I mean disk space is so CHEAP! Why take the stuff offline? Why not respect the effort that was made to create, maintain, update and have users adopt such a great distro and archive everything after it is EOL? Its silly to think everyone has a reson to upgrade and remove all the repos as if your ashamed of the past (whoa 11.3 was such an embarrassment that wastes 10-20GB of disk space!! (sarcasm font here) – pretty silly.
Also, AFAIK the nvidia driver rpms were never explained anywhere how they were made and from what sources - they seemed to “just work” and do it quite well! I wouldn’t have any idea how to recreate those packages as they aren’t the opensource driver, and may be repackaged nvidia*.run packages – who knows!?
Anyways, I found that the university of Chile mirrored the nvidia repo - so I copied it last night so I am ok and my users willl be happy with good rpm based nvidia drivers
That was a tough repo to find! (had to perfectly google a version string of an rpm in quotes)
Huh, not quite… the server that hosts the nvidia drivers is not the
property of SUSE nor of openSUSE. It is a special case.
NVidia prepares their drivers (those used “the hard way”). Then somebody
from openSUSE creates the rpms, and hosts them at a site property of
NVidia, courtesy of them.
Why not, if the rpms are created by openSUSE, and NVidia has no objections,
are they not hosted at download.opensuse.org? Because the people that say
that hosting the NVidia drivers there would be illegal are the kernel
developers - so no hosting on our sites.
Why are not the rpms for 11.3 kept there, the same as many 11.3 repos are
still available? Good question, but here is another: why doesn’t that
nvidia site hosts older rpms versions of the drivers for any distro?
Recently the driver was broken, and the only driver rpm available was the
broken rpm: there was no way to obtain the previous, working, driver.
Why indeed!
No idea. Maybe the allotted disk space there is indeed limited. Or some
other unknown reason.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
So, I and the university of Chile can host the nvidia drivers but opensuse cannnot – sounds more like a lack of cahones than doing whats pedantic and legal.
This is the trouble with Linux… Pedants are too many, too many Richard Stall-man types on a crusade to keep everything separated - like the Berlin wall or the walls of Palestine — people need to take risks and adopt a F you attitude and package anything they want however they want until the OS has polish, completeness, ease of access to common things — and consistency – even if a few morals and a bit of disk space in another country is used to do so. Lets break the “law”!
> So, I and the university of Chile can host the nvidia drivers but
> opensuse cannnot – sounds more like a lack of cahones than doing whats
> pedantic and legal.
But it is not legal, that’s a fact.
They make the kernel and publish it under their own rules and license, like
it or not.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
On 2012-06-22 22:33, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2012-06-22 22:26, djfuq wrote:
>
>> So, I and the university of Chile can host the nvidia drivers but
>> opensuse cannnot – sounds more like a lack of cahones than doing whats
>> pedantic and legal.
>
> But it is not legal, that’s a fact.
I forgot to say that you can search the mail archives and find out that
openSUSE did try to host those rpms, and was told by people (that worked
for openSUSE or SUSE) that they would sue openSUSE if the files were not
removed.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
As posted above more then 12 hours ago: THIS THREAD IS CLOSED.
That is also for NNTP users! (Well, specialy for them because HTTP users will not be able to post by the nature of the forums software).
