I think there should be a version of opensuse with e17 desktop when it is done.
I know development is not even alpha.
What do you think about e17 in opensuse?
realmanager wrote:
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> I think there should be a version of opensuse with e17 desktop when it
> is done.
> I know development is not even alpha.
> What do you think about e17 in opensuse?
>
It is available from the build service (I never tried it though, my personal
preference when avoiding a desktop is fluxbox).
So it should work by making a minimal opensuse install without desktop
environment but with X11 and then installing E17 from
home:sleep_walker:branches:X11:Enlightenment/openSUSE_11.3
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openSUSE 11.2 64 bit | Intel Core2 Quad Q8300@2.50GHz | Gnome 2.28 | GeForce
9600 GT | 4GB Ram
openSUSE 11.3 64 bit | Intel Core2 Duo T9300@2.50GHz | Gnome 2.30 | Quadro
FX 3600M | 4GB Ram
i know there.
but still it would be nicer if there was a live cd like elive.
There is one, called Suse On Active Diet or SOAD, but I don’t know if it is still actively developed and it is not well suited for harddisk install in my opinion, because there is some mess with the repository/package managing (too many repositories and it seems like --nodeps is often used to get it that slim).
no englightenment project seems to be active(including soad) except elive.
this situation can make an advantage for opensuse.
by the way thanks for the all replies 
realmanager wrote:
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> no englightenment project seems to be active(including soad) except
> elive.
> this situation can make an advantage for opensuse.
>
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What I really wanted to point at is:
It seems that a repo with enlightenment 17 is available and if that works it
only needs a volunteer to dig into susestudio to build an appliance as first
shot (never did it, but it looks not so complicated when I read the
description for it) and if that works it can be refined and one can build a
live cd then.
What I want to encourage is to give it a try in a do it yourself way, one
does not need to wait until someone does it. That is the way such projects
grow and succeed, isn’t it?
If there is already something like soad with enlightenement this should make
it even easier since there is a usefull base project.
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openSUSE 11.2 64 bit | Intel Core2 Quad Q8300@2.50GHz | Gnome 2.28 | GeForce
9600 GT | 4GB Ram
openSUSE 11.3 64 bit | Intel Core2 Duo T9300@2.50GHz | Gnome 2.30 | Quadro
FX 3600M | 4GB Ram
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 16:06:01 +0000, realmanager wrote:
> I think there should be a version of opensuse with e17 desktop when it
> is done.
> I know development is not even alpha. What do you think about e17 in
> opensuse?
e17 has been stuck in development limbo for years. I used to use
Enlightenment myself back when I was using RedHat 5, 6, and 7 - and when
development on e17 started, development on e16 stopped.
I’m sure someone will look at a respin using SUSE Studio when the
Enlightenment project has something stable to show.
Jim
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> I’m sure someone will look at a respin using SUSE Studio when the
> Enlightenment project has something stable to show.
I second that, don’t know what happened to Enlightment, but seems
like it drove off a cliff years ago.
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 18:27:54 +0000, GofBorg wrote:
>> I’m sure someone will look at a respin using SUSE Studio when the
>> Enlightenment project has something stable to show.
>
> I second that, don’t know what happened to Enlightment, but seems like
> it drove off a cliff years ago.
It’s really kinda sad, because it was an excellent lightweight desktop.
Jim
Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
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Hello!
I just installed OpenSuse 11.3 and am wondering if anyone knows E17 repo? I successfully installed E16 (but I expected for E17) and it works flawlessly. I would be more than grateful if someone could guide me and others, I googled for the e17 repo but with no success, because simply google or enlightenment homepage directs to the old opensuse webpage parts where pages has been removed. Although KDE 4 desktop is pretty neat and works fine, E17 is so light… I am sure I am not the only one who would like to isntall E17 on Opensuse.
Thank you for your time!
If anyone would like to beta test, I have created an elightenment live cd.
Look for project “petite linux” on susegallery
I liked Enlightenment on Arch Linux a lot, so I am downloading it for testing. One thing: Please provide md5 and/or sha256 Checksums on the download page, to verify the data.
I also just downloaded it. The md5sum I get is as follows:
8d7322d4ae488fb131cc97a3798bbe59 Petite_Linux.i686-0.9.16.iso
but I don’t know if that is correct (ie don’t know if same on the posted website).
It’s the same as mine, so should be correct. sha256 is “68eec275aa9378e71cddf9282067f283a4eae4b37adb989b7c465af24c1f4ea3”
I booted vatser’s Petite_Linux liveCD to my sandbox PC, which is a 32-bit AMD Athlon-1100 w/1GB RAM (on a MSI KT3 Ultra motherboard) w/AGP nVidia GeForce FX5200 graphics [age 10-years]. Its the oldest PC that I have, but with 1 GB of RAM it still moves along reasonably well.
Assuming Petite_Linux was based on openSUSE-11.3, I applied the ‘nomodeset’ boot code at the grub menu. The Enlightenment desktop came up ok at 1024x768 with the “nv” open source graphic driver, which is what I typically get with an openSUSE-11.3 liveCD on this sandbox PC FX5200/Samsung monitor combination. I confirmed the ‘nv’ driver by looking in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file. To do so I discovered that the text editor that comes with Petite_Linux is the “vi-improved” text editor. I also noted the filemanager was PCManFM version 0.9.7 and the terminal program was the XFCE Terminal versin 0.4.4. The browser is Google Chrome. I noted wicd as the network manager.
I confess I am not familiar with Englightenment Desktop, so a lot of what I did was that of a beginner exploring. Empathy would not run on this liveCD boot (it continually crashed each time I attempted to start it). The “gadget temp” and “gadget cpufreq” did not display anything. Possibly they need configuring for my PC’s hardware. I did not get to test any other features (such as USB hot plugging nor plugging in a USB camera, nor playing with network items, such as ssh, etc … ). Possibly someother time.
Still, the rest of the Desktop Experience was fun and interesting.
I did not know where to locate the restart / shutdown menu selection (probably my lack of experience with Enlightenment is showing itself here) so I simply restarted with a terminal using ‘shutdown -r now’.
If our local LUG (Linux User’s Group) will let me, I may try to install this on the LUG PC (which we use for members to try out installs) to see how it runs on an older PC than what I have at home.
The menu option for logout and shutdown is “system”.
I liked the experience with the livecd. The theme is nice, and for my first short testing, everything seemed to work (haven’t tested all applications yet, maybe empathy is as broken as Oldcpu told). The choice of applications is pretty nice, even though I miss a graphical “su” like gksu, gnomesu or kdesu (I hardly remember something native was planned in Enlightenment some time ago), a graphical taskmanager (maybe lxtask?) and a music management/playing application (maybe clementine?). If vi is really the only texteditor it is a little bit too less in my opinion. Leafpad would be a small graphical one.
All in all, it’s very good work. Thanks for that and good luck!
Wow, thanks all of you for your input.
The correct md5sum as reported by Suse Studio where it is built is
MD5: 8d7322d4ae488fb131cc97a3798bbe59
To be perfectly honest, I only use vi so I don’t know which other nicer text editor to install as default. I will look into this leafpad, other suggestions would be welcome.
I am pleased it runs ok on an old machine, since I don’t have anything that old to test it on.
I see that empathy is indeed broken, I will look into that.
As for the music player, personally I haven’t used one in so long, it would be hard for me to judge. I believe that mp3s are a thing of the past, we are now in a streaming era and I personally use spotify (with wine). However I will look into this clementine you mention and again, am open to more suggestions and opinions on the matter.
I also understand the need for a task manager. Being a console person, I didn’t think. I will look into that too.
Thanks once more,
Robert
Leafpad is nice. It was introduced into openSUSE-11.3 OSS repository as part of the addition of LXDE, although having stated that, toward the end of the 11.3 development cycle, leafpad was dropped as the ‘editor’ for inclusion, and the text editor ‘beaver’ added. Fortunately both are still in the OSS repository.
My own view is ‘vi-enhanced’ is ok. One of the 1st things I always do after a fresh install is install my editor ‘of choice’ (ie I will install both ‘leafpad’ and ‘mc’ (midnight commander)).
I also have no preference here. Again, when I do a new install, typically one of the 1st things I do is add the packman repository, and install my media player of choice from Packman. I normally pay no attention to the media player that comes in the OSS repository.
Ok, so the empathy fault was due to a bug with the nvidia drivers. The truth is they shouldn’t be included by default anyway, so now I instead include the nouveau drivers. In any case, it is working again.
I quite liked lxtask and leafpad so they’ve also been included (and set as default text editor instead of gvim which I removed)
I would like an opinion on desktop items.
Presently I have disabled anything on the desktop (apart from the background) as I find it gradually just gets cluttered with rubbish, plus it makes you want to “minimize” everything to find a launcher
This way there is only the bar with the essential applications + minimized and the excellent alt+esc “run command” interface.
I know it is unconventional to not have stuff all over the desktop, hence why I am asking for an opinion on the matter.
Thanks in advance,
Robert
I confess I dont really know what that means. I do know a feature I like is the capability to drag icons to the desktop. Icons representing a quick launch of an application, a document, a file, … representing many things.
Yes, it can get cluttered for some people, but not for all of us.
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On a different note, have you had any thoughts on how long you plan to keep packging this Petite_Linux liveCD ? If you think you may do it for a few years, it may be worth while updating this wiki pointing to your liveCD : Derivatives - openSUSE … that way the ‘word gets out’ of the effort you have put in to this, and more people will know this is a liveCD they can try out.