Enlighten Me

Hi,

Im a windows user at the moment but am wanting to dive straight in to linux by using OpenSuse. So i dont come here for help. I come here for you guys to enlighten me on how using Linux will make me never want to use Windows again.

What are benefits, is it easy to install programs etc? As i have seen and heard that installing programs like flash is a 2 day job. Is there a device manager so i can see everything on my system and if its installed correctly etc.

Enlighten me! :slight_smile:

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Depends on what you’re after. Flash comes w/OpenSUSE by default (unlike
your current OS). Applications that are in the repositories don’t require
downloading, installing, clicking Next a dozen times, putting in
settings… most of the time you can just install from repositories.
Where difficulty traditional originates is in software that is NOT part of
a sortware repository and then it ranges anywhere from easy to hard.
Knowing what you do with your computer would help, but if your primary
concern is user-interface stuff like Flash then it will all be there from
the start.

Good luck.

On 03/24/2011 09:36 AM, NEO-BAHAMUT- wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Im a windows user at the moment but am wanting to dive straight in to
> linux by using OpenSuse. So i dont come here for help. I come here for
> you guys to enlighten me on how using Linux will make me never want to
> use Windows again.
>
> What are benefits, is it easy to install programs etc? As i have seen
> and heard that installing programs like flash is a 2 day job. Is there a
> device manager so i can see everything on my system and if its installed
> correctly etc.
>
> Enlighten me! :slight_smile:
>
>
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NEO-BAHAMUT- wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Im a windows user at the moment but am wanting to dive straight in to
> linux by using OpenSuse. So i dont come here for help. I come here for
> you guys to enlighten me on how using Linux will make me never want to
> use Windows again.
>
> What are benefits, is it easy to install programs etc? As i have seen
> and heard that installing programs like flash is a 2 day job. Is there a
> device manager so i can see everything on my system and if its installed
> correctly etc.
>
> Enlighten me! :slight_smile:

Well I see you’ve been posting questions here for nearly three years
now, so I guess you already have some experience.

You could try looking at <http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/>

Or you could try actually installing flash and see how long it takes
you. Everybody will be pleased to help with specific problems.

BTW, I love the wikipedia entry for your nick
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahamut>

In Linux, software is usually managed in repositories. If you choose to download from the vendor’s website, as it sounds like you have done, it will get more complicated and risky. If you stick to the repos and your favorite package manager (Yast and zypper in openSUSE), installing a package such as Flash should only take a minute or two.

thanks for the replys guys. So it is my understanding that ANY software that i require I am to search for it via this page (link below)

software.opensuse.org: Download openSUSE 11.4

However if i was to install Flash or VMware for example through here i take it that it would be a doddle (easy).

Why would it be much more difficult using a vendor as they provide the download links for example again. The flash website provides links to Flash’s linux opensuse download. When i run it, it says its installed successfully and then when i hit youtube it says its not installed.

The rpm on Adobe’s site is generic. It -should- work on any distro that uses the rpm package system, but may require tweaking. Flash is already provided on the non-open source repository optimized for openSUSE and in recent releases is installed by default.

VMWare is commercial and as such can’t be provided in our repositories. Your choices are downloading from the VMWare website, or consider using VirtualBox. VB is free and there is an open source edition in the standard oss repo.

Generally, if it’s open source, you’ll find it in the oss repo or the Build Service, or Packman. If it’s free, non-commercial but proprietary, you might find it in the non-oss repo (Sun Java, Flash). If it’s commercial You have what the vendor might provide.

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Agreed… and you may want to think of distribution on the windows side as
well. Out of the box the windows OS/distribution doesn’t come with
third-party stuff, though sometimes companies selling computers will add
more into it from the start (Dell, HP, etc.) and that’s their prerogative.
The difference is that once installed no more software (except perhaps
patches) comes from those vendors and if you want a third-party product
(such as an office productivity suite) you need to go find one, buy it,
download it, install it.

In the Linux world distributions often come with those and if not (such as
in OpenSUSE’s case) you can install it using a built-in repository. If
software is open-source it can be included in this way regardless of the
OS, and in the case of Linux a ton of software (tens-of-thousands of
packages) is already in that form. The windows world is full of
closed-source (and some open-source) software so for the most part you’re
stuck with the old model of find, pay, download, install from various
websites hoping that your computer has everything it needs to run the
given third-party product.

In theory microsoft could ship things like Pidgin for cross-protocol
messaging along with windows, but they don’t do that because it competes
with their own advertisement-laden client. The same goes for the Dells
and HPs of the world, but they want traffic to come to their site, not
third-party’s sites, so they typically partner with large companies who
will provide support along with products and it’s up to the end user to
find the better products like Firefox, Pidgin, Chrome, etc.

Good luck.

On 03/25/2011 09:36 AM, chief sealth wrote:
>
> The rpm on Adobe’s site is generic. It -should- work on any distro that
> uses the rpm package system, but may require tweaking. Flash is already
> provided on the non-open source repository optimized for openSUSE and in
> recent releases is installed by default.
>
> VMWare is commercial and as such can’t be provided in our repositories.
> Your choices are downloading from the VMWare website, or consider using
> VirtualBox. VB is free and there is an open source edition in the
> standard oss repo.
>
> Generally, if it’s open source, you’ll find it in the oss repo or the
> Build Service, or Packman. If it’s free, non-commercial but proprietary,
> you might find it in the non-oss repo (Sun Java, Flash). If it’s
> commercial You have what the vendor might provide.
>
>
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