"Easy Way to put Media to USB Stick" (openFATE #308352)

Hello to the other willing delta, gamma and beta testers ;)!

Has someone jet tried the tool for writing images to a USB stick / USB flash drive that is available from the kiwi project (http://software.opensuse.org/ymp/openSUSE:Tools/openSUSE_11.2/kiwi-tools-imagewriter.ymp ) or looked at the discussion on the openFATE project https://features.opensuse.org/308352 ?
Do you think this will be available in 11.4 (=12.0?)?

This issue seems to me important (especially for testing and for netbooks without any optical drive).

Greetings pistazienfresser


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As my distro of choice, I think suse is lagging behind the likes of the ubuntu based distors in not catering for persistent live usb installs.
I think the live usb .iso’s need a similar feature to ubuntu deriviative in allowing the automatic creation of a persistent install. Even the main competiton (fedora)allows this.
That said, at least suse allows for the creation of a live usb from any linux distro without the need for an extra suse-only package installation like fedora does.
BTW, I have yet to find an easy way to make a suse persistent usb, so opt for ubuntu or fedora instead.
(I have found ubuntu/debian based systems stream multimedia better than other distros, but this is not a major issue for me - I still like suse.)

In fact the whole issue of persistent live usb installs take me back to the early days of linux where many distros used different areas of the root partition to store date. The filesystem layout now seems to have stabilised and most distros use the same root partition layout.
Perhaps we need to do the same with live usb and use ubuntu’s casper or whatever. …But someone needs to get the major distro developers talking to each other to do this.

Hi
You should look at building a USB image on SUSE Studio, with the raw
image and use imagewriter from the repository. Pull in the DE of your
choice, add your own rpm’s etc.


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
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Welcome - SUSE Studio ?
Seems something like a club;):

Will I be tested if I would be able to behave and not to ask to much wearisome questions?:shame:

Greetings
pistazienfresser

You should get a studio account fairly quickly. No questions asked.:slight_smile:

What’s up with dd any how, works for me.

Hi
You just sign up, sometimes its withing minutes, sometimes a few days
but your login will arrive…


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
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Granted, but for a linux novice, non-tech savvy user this is a non-event. We need to make it easierfor them to make a persistent live usb.

I’ve tested the imagewriter tool, it just acts a graphical front end to the dd tool :
you select your .iso file, yout tell it on which usb device you want it, then you start the writing process.

There is no way to configure some kind of persistency.

Some tools on windows (live linux usb) allow you to write to usb key with some kind of persistency, you may use wine to give it a try.

OK. So I will test it not. I seem to be able the dd part.
Even some persistency (e. g.: WLAN password) is possible with a second partition made by fdisk
as long I make no update.

Yes or I find a bigger USB stick and try the thing described in the forums How-To with the DVD or net image.

Has jet someone looked at the openFATE thread and post something there?

Greetings
pistazienfresser

And the imagewriter from suse-studios seems not a very good one if you want really a graphical solution:
a) It could not unmount the only partition om my USB flash device on its own.
b) After I unmounted my usb stick (or its only partition?) via nautilus:
the graphic imagewriter could not find my usb device.
c) Only after I plugged the stick out and in again, opened a terminal and ran

umount /dev/sdb1

the graphical imagewriter could write something.

May be a solution for a good live USB stick (without forgetting) is in the terminal and the kiwi-tools-imagewriter.
See:
/usr/share/doc/packages/kiwi/README.imagewriter

In order to compile, run
% qmake
to create the make file and then run
% make

qmake should automatically detect your platform.

=== Kiosk mode ===

The imagewriter also has the capability to be used in “kiosks” that may have external harddrives. In order to compile in code that will
both ignore large hard drives and mark unknown USB sticks as “SUSE Studio”, run
% qmake DEFINES+=KIOSKHACK
to create the make file and then
% make

in order to start the imagewriter with sudo, do the following:
% xhost +SI:localuser:root
to allow root access to the current screen and then start the program with:
% sudo DISPLAY=:0 burner
I have installed both packages:

     [LEFT]       **imagewriter**
 [/LEFT]
 [RIGHT]         [SUSE:SUSEStudio/openSUSE_11.2](http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/SUSE:/SUSEStudio/openSUSE_11.2)     [/RIGHT]

                      Graphical image writer application    
    
    [1-Klick-Installation](http://software.opensuse.org/ymp/SUSE:SUSEStudio/openSUSE_11.2/imagewriter.ymp?base=openSUSE%3A11.2&query=imagewriter)   
     **Manueller Paket-Download**
 [RIGHT]       [Zum OBS-Projekt](https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=SUSE%3ASUSEStudio)     [/RIGHT]
                       i586                    [imagewriter-1.8-1.1.i586.rpm](http://software.opensuse.org/search/download?base=openSUSE%3A11.2&file=SUSE%3A%2FSUSEStudio%2FopenSUSE_11.2%2Fi586%2Fimagewriter-1.8-1.1.i586.rpm&query=imagewriter)                                       src                    [imagewriter-1.8-1.1.src.rpm](http://software.opensuse.org/search/download?base=openSUSE%3A11.2&file=SUSE%3A%2FSUSEStudio%2FopenSUSE_11.2%2Fsrc%2Fimagewriter-1.8-1.1.src.rpm&query=imagewriter)                                       x86_64                    [imagewriter-1.8-1.1.x86_64.rpm](http://software.opensuse.org/search/download?base=openSUSE%3A11.2&file=SUSE%3A%2FSUSEStudio%2FopenSUSE_11.2%2Fx86_64%2Fimagewriter-1.8-1.1.x86_64.rpm&query=imagewriter)                                

                                [LEFT]       **kiwi-tools-imagewriter**
 [/LEFT]
 [RIGHT]         [openSUSE:11.2/standard](http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/11.2/standard)     [/RIGHT]

                            
    
      [1-Klick-Installation](http://software.opensuse.org/ymp/openSUSE:11.2/standard/kiwi-tools-imagewriter.ymp?base=openSUSE%3A11.2&query=imagewriter)   
       **Manueller Paket-Download**
   [RIGHT]       [Zum OBS-Projekt](https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=openSUSE%3A11.2)     [/RIGHT]
                          i586                    [kiwi-tools-imagewriter-3.74-17.21.2.i586.rpm](http://software.opensuse.org/search/download?base=openSUSE%3A11.2&file=openSUSE%3A%2F11.2%2Fstandard%2Fi586%2Fkiwi-tools-imagewriter-3.74-17.21.2.i586.rpm&query=imagewriter)                                       x86_64                    [kiwi-tools-imagewriter-3.74-17.21.2.x86_64.rpm](http://software.opensuse.org/search/download?base=openSUSE%3A11.2&file=openSUSE%3A%2F11.2%2Fstandard%2Fx86_64%2Fkiwi-tools-imagewriter-3.74-17.21.2.x86_64.rpm&query=imagewriter)  

Maybe I just keep on trying…
Greetings
pistazienfresser