Ok, I am officially installing Fedora over openSuse.Back when I used Fedora, I did not have any of the problems openSuse is giving me. For example, my Raideon works correctly under Fedora. It is the farthest thing from working correctly in openSuse. I got it working for a bit, then it suddenly stopped. Now, in order to get a GUI at all, I have to run x under sax2 -r -m 0=vesa. Well, that is all. I won’t let the door hit me in the … on the way out.
Have fun, whatever you do.
Use the distro that works for you. There’s no harm in that.
However, next time you want to test a new distro, just make space and dual boot it, or run it in a virtual machine to test that it works with your hardware. That way, if it doesn’t meet your expectations, you don’t have to reinstall Fedora again and again.
That’s odd, I gave up Fedora over a year ago in favor of OpenSuse for similar reasons. I’ve tried many flavors of Linux over the past 16 years including RedHat, CentOS, Fedora, Slackware, Ubuntu, Sun, and I’m happy with OpenSuse. But maybe experience has more to do with know-how then the brand.
I do note a number of openSUSE users have complained that the radeon and radeonhd drivers that come with openSUSE-11.2 (in rpms xorg-x11-driver-video and xorg-x11-driver-video-radeonhd) are lacking. (Note I tried to document some practical theory reference video drivers and their packaging for openSUSE here: openSUSE Graphic Card Practical Theory Guide for Users - openSUSE Forums ). For users who know nothing about video drivers for openSUSE, I recommend they look thru that link for the ATI. Its not too long.
For those who are willing to take a chance, they can try the latest very cutting edge open source drivers unofficially packaged for openSUSE for ATI hardware. ie … some openSUSE-11.2 users with “legacy” ATI hardware have found they get better behaviour on openSUSE-11.2 from the open source radeon and radeonhd drivers if they use the updates from the X11 : XOrg repository. That repository is here:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/XOrg/openSUSE_11.2/
… and the rpms that some of us found gave better behaviour are these apps:
- mesa
- xorg-x11-driver-input
- xorg-x11-driver-video
- xorg-x11-driver-video-radeonhd
and possibly ( ? ) others for a 64-bit openSUSE ? … (I tried them on a 32-bit PC). One caution - that tends to be a cutting edge repository, so there is always a risk it will make things worse when a cutting edge release has a bug.
Also, note, because that repository is so cutting edge, I recommend it be added, the rpms installed, and the repository removed. Do NOT leave that repository enabled 1 update longer than necessary.
Some users go to install those rpms in YaST , see that the older Novell versions are installed, get confused, and think they have somehow already installed the updates. So some care is needed.
Reference Fedora, I think it is a good distribution. I wish anyone who uses it well.
One note, if one uses the xorg-x11-driver-video rpms from the X11: / XOrg respository, one should not then go replace it with rpms from the SuSE-GmbH update repository as that will cause one to regress. Could that be what happened to you?
I use Fedora liveCD,opensuse few others its works well in desktop/laptop only ifs HD break down thats it. Other is Im happy camper;)
Just a thought, but perhaps if you asked for some help over more than a
couple of days, someone would be able to help you out?
As others said, use what works for you - but the community is generally
very helpful for people who ask questions and seek out help without the
“drama” of a post like the one you posted at the root of this thread…I
often wonder what the point is of coming into a forum and after a couple
of days (and 4 posts total) announcing to the world that you’re leaving.
Jim
Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Moderator
Jim Henderson wrote:
> I often wonder what the point is of coming into a forum and after a
> couple of days (and 4 posts total) announcing to the world that
> you’re leaving.
actually, i kinda doubt you actually wonder why it is done…can only
be a few explainations but you (working for The Man) are too nice to
say it…so let the anarchist:
-misguided feeling of self importance (openSUSE needs to know that I
will be out of the building)
-trolls/evangelist from other distros/operating systems ‘salting’ the
forum here with their fear uncertainty and doubt (aka: FUD
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt>)
-juvenile mischief
are there others?
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palladium
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:20:52 +0000, palladium wrote:
> actually, i kinda doubt you actually wonder why it is done…can only be
> a few explainations but you (working for The Man) are too nice to say
> it…
Well, maybe I was asking it more rhetorically than anything - but this is
an odd behaviour that in all my time of doing online discussion forums
(back into the early-to-mid 80’s), I’ve never come across except up here.
In this particular user’s case, I noted one thread on the problems and a
question that hadn’t been answered at the end of the thread that had been
posted on the 29th (IIRC). The answer is simple enough, probably, but
there didn’t seem to be a genuine interest in getting the answer (as
evidenced by the root post in this thread). Since the OP has announced
their departure, I’ll probably go back and answer it later tonight just
so those with a similar problem can have some idea where to start looking.
I may work for “The Man” (ie, Novell), but here in OSF, my
“allegiance” (not quite the right word, but it’ll do) is to the community
first, and those on the inside know I have no problem calling BS when I
see it. I do have a tendency to try to be diplomatic about it, though -
largely because you never know who’s reading, and the Internet never
forgets.
Jim
Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Moderator
Jim Henderson wrote:
> and the Internet never forgets.
true, but i just googled my first two email addresses and couldn’t
find any evidence prior to '96, though i know i was active on usenet
in '95 (long before it was necessary to mung the address)
here is the oldest i can find:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.os2.mail-news/browse_thread/thread/702e9d78e30d6f52/61495e1838b16380?q=“denverd”+ibm+net#61495e1838b16380
also tried it in yahoo and bing…i don’t understand…it appears they
have forgotten… 
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palladium
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:08:45 +0000, palladium wrote:
> true, but i just googled my first two email addresses and couldn’t find
> any evidence prior to '96, though i know i was active on usenet in '95
> (long before it was necessary to mung the address)
Same here - but it’s always best at least to assume the Internet never
forgets. 
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Moderator
On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 18:02 +0000, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:08:45 +0000, palladium wrote:
>
> > true, but i just googled my first two email addresses and couldn’t find
> > any evidence prior to '96, though i know i was active on usenet in '95
> > (long before it was necessary to mung the address)
>
> Same here - but it’s always best at least to assume the Internet never
> forgets.
usually true… but not always. There are many damning quotes and
news stories that are gone (forever).
For the powerful, the Internet is still very changeable.
On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:08:53 +0000, cjcox wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 18:02 +0000, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:08:45 +0000, palladium wrote:
>>
>> > true, but i just googled my first two email addresses and couldn’t
>> > find any evidence prior to '96, though i know i was active on usenet
>> > in '95 (long before it was necessary to mung the address)
>>
>> Same here - but it’s always best at least to assume the Internet never
>> forgets.
>
> usually true… but not always. There are many damning quotes and news
> stories that are gone (forever).
Or at least are difficult to find, certainly.
> For the powerful, the Internet is still very changeable.
True, I’ve got a cousin who held a very high rank in the Navy, and his
private office number (not the one his secretary answered, the one that
went right through to his desk) somehow got published; his brother found
it and called him to wish him a happy birthday, and the next day, it was
gone from the web.
He’s retired now, so it doesn’t matter, but I do occasionally wonder
where his brother found it and if it would have been findable on the
Internet archive or in Google’s cache.
Jim
Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Moderator
Jim Henderson wrote:
> the next day, it was gone from the web.
he probably found a list of senior officers’ private lines…which was
supposed to only be visible to other senior officers (i guess flag
rank)…
when your cousin got called he asked where the info came from and had
that ‘leak’ plugged…
(if it ever got released to the congresscritter or newshounds the
cousin would never get any work done because the &#$"¤£€ “Fourth
Estate” and ‘We the people’ all think they have a right to know where
the money goes…
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palladium
I keep hoping from Ubuntu, openSUSE and Fedora and honestly I haven’t found any Nirvanah (except in Pandora Radio ).
But like I learned how to get my webcam working with Skype and Cheese in openSUSE, and now I am applying that same change in the others.
Unfortunately I have a strange startup issue that would nix openSUSE for a lot of people (I’m open for some punishment rotfl!).
I would suggest to anyone with a similar question regarding distributions:
Read the reviews at Linux Distribution Watch.
If Virtual Machine capabilities install both and try them, or try the LiveCD.
Your experience will vary based on personal preferences, hardware, requirements/usage, and what priority you place on those. Just as important, checkout documentation, resources for solving problems, distro’s relationship to its’ user community, support, and access to software.
Here’s an interesting comparison, Comparison of Linux distributions at wikipedia, or Linux Distribution Chooser
HTHS
On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:28:43 +0000, palladium wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> the next day, it was gone from the web.
>
>
> he probably found a list of senior officers’ private lines…which was
> supposed to only be visible to other senior officers (i guess flag
> rank)…
You guessed correctly on the rank level. It’s possible it was a list
like that; the brother making the call didn’t tell me where he found the
list or what was on it.
> when your cousin got called he asked where the info came from and had
> that ‘leak’ plugged…
Yep, that clearly was what happened.
Jim
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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Moderator